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For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primary

Who would you like to see as the republican nominee, select all that apply


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Muh dawg Randy P.
 
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The GOP doesn't have to learn. It's dying. Conservatism will replace it regardless of what it learns or doesn't.

I suppose that depends on what the definition of "conservatism" ends up as being.

Sounds to me like there's plenty of learning that needs to be done yet.
 
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Christie preferred candidate, other very easy choices include: Rubio, Bush, Huntsman. If not Christie, would probably prefer to move to a candidate like Bush or Huntsman, but aware significant problems exist. Bush has his last name (silly reason, but important to the masses) and Jon has his problems of being a non-stellar person on the national stage. Rubio is still very young, which helps count against him.
 
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if you stay home you are also not part of the solution.

Your "Vote or die" crap doesn't work on me. Sometimes there's no solution offered...and voting for the sake of voting is also dumb. Sometimes, not showing up for a Republican candidate is a more powerful message to the party than showing up.
 
Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

Select all you would be happy with as the republican nominee for president in 2016. Please only vote if you are not a democrat and would potentially vote republican in the 2016 presidential race. Also please add other names I missed in the thread.

Adding poll, please be patient.

I don't have a vote, but I participated in the poll anyway because the choice America makes affects more than just America - hopefully, America has had it's fill of a celebrity spokesmodel as leader now and you'll pick someone who actually has run something successfully before - I prefer Jeb Bush over Chris Christie, but either would be miles better than the person taking up space in the Oval Office now.
 
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Sometimes, not showing up for a Republican candidate is a more powerful message to the party than showing up.

Only if people promote the idea that people stayed at home because of that particular candidate, and they could account for a desired candidate or platform to rally behind. If not, then you accomplished far less than you had hoped. 1912 saw a horrible level of voter participation, but that didn't get the focus. What did was Roosevelt and Taft.

More often than not, voting sends a better message, even if it means voting against your usual party.
 
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Only if people promote the idea that people stayed at home because of that particular candidate, and they could account for a desired candidate or platform to rally behind. If not, then you accomplished far less than you had hoped.

Not in the long term. If the Republican party continually loses national elections, then it will be forced to re-brand...which is the intended effect.
 
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I don't have a vote, but I participated in the poll anyway because the choice America makes affects more than just America - hopefully, America has had it's fill of a celebrity spokesmodel as leader now and you'll pick someone who actually has run something successfully before - I prefer Jeb Bush over Chris Christie, but either would be miles better than the person taking up space in the Oval Office now.

I kinda like ol' Jeb too. But I think his last name might be a hindrance. Myself, I don't want any last name in the Whitehouse that's been there in the last 30 years.
 
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You mean like an old school conservative? A REAL conservative?

I hope the GOP does run this kind of candidate because I see nothing coming from the democrat side worthy of my vote.

But it's still early yet.

An old-school, Goldwater-era conservative is the only kind of candidate worth voting for, but since nobody in either major party has any clue what fiscal responsibility means, that's extremely unlikely.
 
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Not in the long term. If the Republican party continually loses national elections, then it will be forced to re-brand...which is the intended effect.

That's why it makes more sense to add to the other candidate's numbers than be included among the invisible statistic, which tends to give us scant information about motivations behind a lack of participation. Third parties typically exemplified an actual measurement of problems within a main party, in comparison with non-voting.
 
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Not in the long term. If the Republican party continually loses national elections, then it will be forced to re-brand...which is the intended effect.

The problem is, they're not doing that. All they're doing is moving farther and farther toward the right. That's what happens when religious stupidity gets into bed with political ideology.
 
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That's why it makes more sense to add to the other candidate's numbers than be included among the invisible statistic.

I'm not going to vote for a candidate that I don't like out of spite for the other...unless it's a Clinton or Bush haha.
 
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I'm not going to vote for a candidate that I don't like out of spite for the other...unless it's a Clinton or Bush haha.

Well, if you don't want to think strategically, that's fine, but I'm not above politics. I happily vote in another party's primary to deflate the numbers of a specific candidate, and then vote against the winner of the primary later in the general election.
 
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I kinda like ol' Jeb too. But I think his last name might be a hindrance. Myself, I don't want any last name in the Whitehouse that's been there in the last 30 years.

I'm not worried about the man's last name - I'm just worried about the man's temperment, his experience, his ability to play well with others, his ability to articulate principles he believes in and lives by, etc. And the fact that he has the quintessential American nuclear mixed marriage family unit is a true bonus at this time in America's history.
 
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The problem is, they're not doing that. All they're doing is moving farther and farther toward the right. That's what happens when religious stupidity gets into bed with political ideology.

They will have to eventually. Like it or not, the country is moving Center-Left...probably because there is no Center-Right alternative at the national level. I hope they learn this lesson earlier than later or we'll have another round of mediocre to bad liberal presidents/Congresses.

Nothing against Cruz and the TP. They serve some kind of purpose and represent their districts, but I don't think they can win a national election.
 
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An old-school, Goldwater-era conservative is the only kind of candidate worth voting for, but since nobody in either major party has any clue what fiscal responsibility means, that's extremely unlikely.

I like that you qualified it with a namesake style conservative rather than trying to convince that one particular brand of conservatism is the true conservative. Good on ya.
 
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Well, if you don't want to think strategically, that's fine, but I'm not above politics. I happily vote in another party's primary to deflate the numbers of a specific candidate, and then vote against the winner of the primary later in the general election.

I just think we have different strategic thinking. You think more on a tactical level, I would say, in using the vote the way you do...which is fine. My view is more big picture in that the party must change/evolve to survive (win votes). When this country goes too far left or too far right, it has a history of returning to a more moderate position after several pendulum swings back and forth. Obama was the counter to Bush, and hopefully a center-right candidate will be the swing back to counter Obama. We'll see.
 
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It is too early for me to seriously consider the 2016 presidential race. Of your choices offered I like Jon Hunstman and Rand Paul the best. Of those not listed I have interest in Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley but have no idea of their plans to seek higher office. Herman Cain may be a wise choice for a VP and is a natural at public speaking. The GOP primary must avoid emphasis on "social conservative" issues like abortion and SSM but should continue to emphasize the importance of family, local and state government as preferred alternatives to federal meddling outside of the specific constitutional powers granted to it. I also favor a GOP plank to abolish all federal meddling in education.
 
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Rand Paul, because I like his libertarian lean.
 
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The GOP doesn't have to learn. It's dying. Conservatism will replace it regardless of what it learns or doesn't.

I don't think that's likely any time soon, we'll have to be dragged into real conservatism kicking and screaming, it's the result of 40+ years of social liberalization. The government won't start living within it's means until the Chinese cut us off completely and that's not likely in the short term.
 
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I voted for Alan Grayson in the other poll. Since I'm independent, I could vote in both I guess. But I won't. I'll wait and see what shakes out.

You can vote in both. I worded it specifically so those not democrat or republican could. Those people not with one or the other party will determine the eventual winner in 2016.
 
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I like that you qualified it with a namesake style conservative rather than trying to convince that one particular brand of conservatism is the true conservative. Good on ya.

What's out there right now, at least among the Republicans, isn't conservatism at all, it fails on every qualification, yet they keep spouting it because they think they're fooling people. Unfortunately, they probably are.
 
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You can vote in both. I worded it specifically so those not democrat or republican could. Those people not with one or the other party will determine the eventual winner in 2016.
I probably will at some point. I covet my independent status. Makes me feel like the Golden Child.
 
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I don't think that's likely any time soon, we'll have to be dragged into real conservatism kicking and screaming, it's the result of 40+ years of social liberalization. The government won't start living within it's means until the Chinese cut us off completely and that's not likely in the short term.

Man, why didn't you stop with the Goldwater statement. Now I have to recant my praise.
 
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I probably will at some point. I covet my independent status. Makes me feel like the Golden Child.

Excellent movie, but I think anything Eddie Murphy stars in is an excellent movie!! Do you know how to do all that magic stuff? :mrgreen:
 
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