View Poll Results: Who would you like to see as the republican nominee, select all that apply

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  • Paul Ryan

    10 12.35%
  • Rand Paul

    25 30.86%
  • Ted Cruz

    15 18.52%
  • Marco Rubio

    10 12.35%
  • Chris Christie

    36 44.44%
  • Scott Walker

    6 7.41%
  • Jeb Bush

    10 12.35%
  • Jon Huntsman

    15 18.52%
  • Alan Keyes

    2 2.47%
  • Other

    17 20.99%
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Thread: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primary

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    Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Anyone who claims Wilson was a raging socialist hardly knows what they're talking about. Of course, I wouldn't have the pleasure of watching you at a conference trying to pull that one off, but it would be amusing to guess the results.
    Wilson's unpublished manuscripts clearly expressed his socialist ideology. He is the Godfather of Progressivism/Liberalism as we know it today.

    Wilson understood that the limits placed upon the power of the national government by the Constitution, and it limited the Progressives/liberals need to see it "relaxed" if not removed. You see having a Constitution grounded in the natural-rights principles of the Declaration of Independence was quite an obstacle for him. This meant, for Wilson, that both the Declaration and the Constitution had to be understood anew through a Progressive lens. So what did Wilson do? he reinterpretated the Founding. Wilson opposed the historical argument. Wilson even suggested that the Declaration ought to be understood by excluding from it the foundational statements on equality and natural rights contained in its first two paragraphs. In a 1911 address (which I will gladly see if I can find it on the internet), Wilson remarked that “the rhetorical introduction of the Declaration of Independence is the least part of it…. If you want to understand the real Declaration of Independence, do not repeat the preface.”

    You know you and Wilson share a lot in common. Your standard of right has been replaced by the ideologies of multiculturalism and “value-neutral” positivism. That is why your ideology explained earlier is all over the map. Cheers!

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    Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Polling all year has Rand Paul as one of the top picks. So much so that since several polls started proving that to be a trend across the country, Paul has been lambasted with several hit pieces by several sources in the MSM. That tells me the left leaning media finds him a threat.
    Because polling 2 years before a primary has typically shown to be accurate. LMAO. Common sense, dude, you either have it or you don't. No spawn of Ron Paul will EVER sniff the white house steps. Ever.

    That you can be 100 percent sure of. His daddy's too crazy.

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    Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    We should quote this just in case he's wrong.
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    Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Then you should be tickled pink it has been discovered that it was Jon Huntsman who leaked all the alleged personal **** about Herman Caine that ended his candidacy. Yes that sweet billionaire Mormon did that! LOL.

    Your daily jolt: Jon Huntsman leaks brought down Herman Cain | Political Insider | www.ajc.com

    But let's not stop there, Huntsman because he is a billionaire and his wealthy daddy funded 59% his campaign when it got strapped for cash while touting he wouldn't take federal funds like the other candidates. Like everyone is a billionaire! Ha. What a joke!
    Cain wasn't a serious candidate. He was the comic relief. Unless you're in a bubble, you know that. There was no way that such a person would have been nominated, much less elected, for the Presidency. He was not knowledgeable, not particularly intelligent, and resorted to 9-9-9 soundbites in response to questions. I would have been a more serious candidate.

    Don't know what Huntsman revealed about Cain, but if there was something to reveal, it should be revealed. Nothing is a secret, when someone runs for the highest office. It ALL makes it out there, sooner or later.

    Being a billionaire isn't in and of itself a bad thing. FDR was very wealthy and from the upper class. It's the bubble thing. Did he ever have a real job (as opposed to "joint ventures" with other rich men - that isn't a real job....it's getting together with other rich guys to buy businesses in trouble, a nd hiring other people to take them apart and sell the pieces).

    Did Huntsman have a car elevator?

    Chemicals Billionaire Jon Huntsman Boosts Children's Cancer Research With $50 Million Donation

    He began his career as a White House staff assistant for Ronald Reagan, and was appointed Deputy Assistant Secretary of Commerce and United States Ambassador to Singapore by George H.W. Bush. Later as Deputy U.S. Trade Representative, he launched global trade negotiations in Doha in 2001 and guided the accession of China into the World Trade Organization. He also served as CEO of his family-owned Huntsman Corporation and chairman of the Huntsman Cancer Foundation.
    While governor, he was named Chairman of the Western Governors Association, and joined the Executive Committee of the National Governors Association. Under his leadership, Utah was named the best managed state in America by the Pew Center on the States.[2] He won re-election in 2008 with nearly 78% of the vote and left office with approval ratings over 80%

    BA in International Politics.

    Keyboard player in a rock band.

    But since he has spoken for a third party in the country, the Republican Party has gotten mad at him and withdrew invitation for him to speak at a convention. So I guess he won't win a primary.

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    Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    I was impressed by Huntsman, ESPECIALLY his ability to speak Chinese. However, he was made fun of in his own party for knowing that language. (Some Republicans are suspicious of academic prowess and foreign knowledge.) I didn't think that Huntsman had the oomph, the charisma to win a nat'l election, though. But maybe the country is ready for someone low key. (I doubt it, tho.)

    Herman Caine is a joke, IMO. His 9-9-9 plan was funny, but that's all. He wasn't a very knowledgeable man, didn't seem particularly intelligent, and didn't communicate well (except to repeat 9-9-9 a lot). He was the comic relief in the primary.
    I am betting Huntsman is sort of a specialist on Asia, I myself can speak Thai and Lao although Vietnamese was beyond my grasp. Vietnamese is quite close to Chinese or at least that is my impression. I liked Caine, now whether I would have ended up voting for him is another question had he won is another question. I just don't know, but I would have thought about it.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

    Of those listed, I'd like to see Huntsman, Christie, Rubio, or Paul take the nomination.

    I'd be open to Cruz, Ryan, and Walker but feel they'd have a harder time winning the general than the other three

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    Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Cain wasn't a serious candidate. He was the comic relief. Unless you're in a bubble, you know that. There was no way that such a person would have been nominated, much less elected, for the Presidency. He was not knowledgeable, not particularly intelligent, and resorted to 9-9-9 soundbites in response to questions. I would have been a more serious candidate.

    Don't know what Huntsman revealed about Cain, but if there was something to reveal, it should be revealed. Nothing is a secret, when someone runs for the highest office. It ALL makes it out there, sooner or later.

    Being a billionaire isn't in and of itself a bad thing. FDR was very wealthy and from the upper class. It's the bubble thing. Did he ever have a real job (as opposed to "joint ventures" with other rich men - that isn't a real job....it's getting together with other rich guys to buy businesses in trouble, a nd hiring other people to take them apart and sell the pieces).

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    Huntsman's campaign put out slanderous comments attacking Caine's character. It didn't have much to do with "truth". Funny all this stuff about Caine has resurfaced lately. I'm sure it has to do with him being a Tea Party activist. There is an all out effort underway to paint them as "right-wing extremists" by the left and the Republican establishment (two peas in a big government pod). Character assassination is nothing new in the world of politics. I don't know how you can say Caine was not knowledgeable/intelligent with the list of accomplishments on his resume. The difference between him and Huntsman is Caine was born poor in Atlanta Georgia and became a self made millionaire. There were many folks who did not agree with his flat tax that included business and private citizens. He wasn't my choice last election but I did admire his strong stand for free markets and appreciated his example of how in this country you can be born dirt poor and and still have the same opportunities to become successful if you are willing to work for it.
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    Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

    Hey guys, could we please take the history stuff to another thread and kinda keep this one on topic. Thank you in advance.
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    Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Of those listed, I'd like to see Huntsman, Christie, Rubio, or Paul take the nomination.

    I'd be open to Cruz, Ryan, and Walker but feel they'd have a harder time winning the general than the other three

    I really can't imagine huntsman getting the nod. Though i would certainly vote for him(dependent on how he ran his campaign)

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    Re: For Non Democrats Only: Who Would You Like To See Win The 2016 Republican Primar

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I really can't imagine huntsman getting the nod. Though i would certainly vote for him(dependent on how he ran his campaign)
    Oh, I agree that Huntsman has a slim chance of getting the nod. But he'd still be someone I'd be happy to see win the Primary.

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