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Thread: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

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    Re: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    A few potential reasons

    The amount of energy that is being reflected back instead of escaping is not linear in nature regarding the effects of CO2 (I do not know if this is true)

    The amount of particulate matter that has been introduced into the atmosphere has increased, reducing the amount of energy that is being transmitted into the earths atmosphere, causing the temperature to be lower. On a global level I do not know the answer but the particulate matter that China is producing is massive, NA and Europe have decreased the amount they produce, so I am unsure if the total level is higher or lower

    The energy being emitted by the sun has decreased over that time frame.

    If I am not mistaken no scientist denies that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, or that increased amounts of it will cause an increase in temperature. That of course is in relation to the other factors that could cause the temperature to increase or decrease
    Unfortunately, when the press releases all this stuff, and people like Al Gore start squawking, they either don't know those other factors or choose to leave them out. It's like the articles in the OP. Where is the mention of any other interactions?

    You are correct about no scientist arguing about the interaction of between sunlight and CO2, the problem with alarmist and most environmentalist it that it is the only thing they present and never model after all factors.
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    Re: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I appreciate the comments. Eyeball to eyeball with ostriches. A good optical acupuncturist might be able to cure that sand in the eye problem. I want to watch.
    LOL - I really appreciated this gem from the article: "This is how giant corporations are wiping out life on Earth in the course of a routine business day."

    Frankly, this is what ought to happen with the planet's kooky anti-capitalists:

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    Re: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    No one said it was the only factor.
    To test Greenhouse gases, one would control conditions such as the number and size of plants to give the data validity. As I stated, this was done in the 1800s and is not a new phenomena.
    If you had read the link, you would know that the last paragraph is explained in the narrative. Blame is distributed accordingly, not criminally, and the fact that what must be done to rectify the problem with a heavy impact on corporations is acknowledged. Consumerism is the problem, even if it is the current lifeblood of world economies at this time. It's just about the recognition of realities, like it or not.
    No one did? When was the last time you read any article concerning global climate change that ever mentions, other than in passing (if it even does), anything but man-made CO2. The few that do bury anything else amongst a ton of unreadable mish-mash to hide it.

    Your own articles focus on two things, CO2 is killing the world, and Capitalism is the evil emitter of those CO2 emission.
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    Re: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    LOL - I really appreciated this gem from the article: "This is how giant corporations are wiping out life on Earth in the course of a routine business day."

    Frankly, this is what ought to happen with the planet's kooky anti-capitalists:

    Realities of Carbon Dioxide?-ostrich-2-jpg

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    Re: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

    On an only slightly related note, I passed a semi-tanker which was apparently carrying liquid CO2 on the way to work today.
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    Re: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    On an only slightly related note, I passed a semi-tanker which was apparently carrying liquid CO2 on the way to work today.
    ...on its way to wiping out life on earth as a matter of course in another mundane day of business.
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    Re: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
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    Re: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

    I read a long time ago a mathematical model that accurately predicts carbon dioxide emissions. The strongest component to this model, as it is an integer, is population. Population has the most influence on emitting carbon dioxide. Damn I wish I remembered the equation. Anyways, another numerator to the equation was GDP.

    Since GDP is part of a fraction, it does not have near as much influence as population. But I will say, that GDP has an influence. And, considering The United States is all about economic growth and GDP, this leads to more CO2 emissions. I am sorry for forgetting the model, but I read it three years ago. I wish I could lay out the entire equation. It was quite simple and elegant.

    I think there is scientific evidence that shows that GDP affects CO2 emissions. If you don't like that truth, then deny it.

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    Re: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

    Frankly...I have yet to be convinced that CO2 is an issue - but then, I haven't looked for evidence either, so...
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    Re: Realities of Carbon Dioxide?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : My money is on the bird unless the guy knows to lie down so the bird can't see him!
    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post

    Greetings, DaveFagan.
    Sand in the eye is a reference to the ostrich with its' head in the sand. Eyeball to eyeball with your head in the sand. Only way to commune with that ostrich. I have a phone link and it is slow to load photos, so I didn't load that photo. I should have. Read back a few posts and it will be more clear. #17
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