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Obama vs. Nixon

Who is the more sinister liar?


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Who is the more sinister liar?

OBAMA

Obama has been caught in multiple lies about ObamaKare. He lied about keeping your plan, and he lied about lying about keeping your plan. He lied about cost reduction, he lied and lied and lied. He's sorry. Awwwwwwwwwwww...

Obama lied about Benghazi. Americans died, Obama/Clinton lied.

NIXON
Nixon lied about a 3rd-rate break-in he did not orchestrate. He lied, and left office.

Nobody died from Nixon's lies.
Nixon didn't lie in order to thieve 6% of the economy for his party's political purposes.
Nixon also did not run guns to Mexico in an attempt to slash the 2nd Amendment... but let's stick to the two Whoppers Obama lied about and even Demokrats have heard about.

Who is the more sinister liar?
Obama wins hands down.
To associate Obama with Nixon is an insult to Nixon. Obama is a liar in a league of his own. He even out does Felonious Bill Clinton.

5000 Americans died because Bush lied about Iraq having WMD's that makes him the MOST sinister lying President in modern history. Not to mention the 3000 + that died because he thought the 911 hijackers were a Iraqi trick and ignored all the warnings. That makes him the most STUPID Liar too.
 
Ahh rocket... wound up by the zimmer once again.

The option is twofold if you did not notice.

Nixon... loathed by the Socialists (why I don't know)... and

Obama... loved by the Socialists.

Now... Meez thinks I'z knows why youz ain't answer'in!

Heart breaking for you... isn't it? To learn Obama's sinister lies make Nixon look like a bad pick pocket.

It's a sad time for our country but I'm lov'in it.
If things are going to be horrible, and we have years to go with President Horribilus Maximus, it's nice he has shown what a downright sinister, lying sack of Socialist he is.

Who knows, some people just might wake up!

Now you're on to something, why on earth would any liberal/socialist to use your term hate Nixon when his policies were to the farthest left than any president since FDR? Nixon even gave FDR a run for his money as the most liberal president ever. Obama is down right conservative compared to Nixon. But it all boils down to the D and the R doesn't it? It doesn't matter how a president governs, left, right, center etc. It is the R and the D. The worst liar, in my long history of following politics, LBJ and Nixon would head the top of the list. Even Eisenhower lied at times. Carter was the most honest and truth teller and that hurt his presidency immensely. During Jimmy's time people were talking about him being too truthful for his own good.

But the bottom line is all presidents with perhaps the exception of Carter lie to achieve their political agenda. Most of the lies told are white lies or lies of exaggeration.
 
Zimmer is so desperate to make Obama look bad.

ROTFLOL... Obama has made himself look bad... I only bring it to this tiny group... reminds me of a joke... below..

Hatuey seems stumped for a response, so... deflection is the order of the day.
Ring, ring... Another order of Deflection for the Socialist at table 9.

Obama wakes up one morning and Michelle says... B'rack... you look awful.
B'rack says... odd... I feel great.
In the Oval Office, in comes Val JarHead and says... B'rack... you look awful...
B'rack says... odd... M'chelle said the same thing, but I feel grrrrreat!
In comes Carney to get the low-down on the lies of the day... and says Mr. President you look awful.
B'rack winging it (no teleprompter) says... odd... M'chelle and Val M'gal said the same thing, but I feel grrrrreat!
J. Carnage says... Mr. President, perhaps you should see the doc. (He's not on ObamaKare... he still has a plan.)
Doc swings by and Obama, reading the teleprompter says... Doc... M'chelle, Val M'gal... and and Carnage claim I look awful... but I feel Grrrrreat!
Doc says... well Mr. President you do look awful, let's see...
Doc pulls out his ipad (NSA watching of course) goes into his medical book... scrolls down the Table of Contents...
Looks great, feels great but not great.... hmmm... looks bad, feels bad...hmmm... OK... here... Looks awful... feels great...
Well Mr. President, the situation is this... you're a first class vagina!
 
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Nixon lied about much more than Watergate, when running for his second term he said he said he would end the war in Vietnam, he prolonged it.

Nixon Prolonged Vietnam War for Political Gain

I think you're wrong there. Nixon won his re-election in November of 1972 and the Paris Peace Accords were signed in January of 1973. A scant 2 months later. Kissinger did jump the gun when he declared peace was at hand a bit. But it was with the added incentive of Linebacker II.
 
Oh, I thought this might be a worthwhile poll about comparison Nixon to Obama. I see it is not.....
 
5000 Americans died because Bush lied about Iraq having WMD's that makes him the MOST sinister lying President in modern history. Not to mention the 3000 + that died because he thought the 911 hijackers were a Iraqi trick and ignored all the warnings. That makes him the most STUPID Liar too.

Let's see.. leaders around the world believed Saddam had WMD.
Hans Blix thought he had WMD.
Congress going back to Clinton thought he had WMD.
There were terrorists in Iraq.
Saddam did not disarm.
He threw out weapon inspectors.
He got a lot of cash selling oil illegally and corrupting the UN in one massive corruption scandal.

Senate Demokrats asked for and got a second vote to support the war.

Woodward in his book witnessed Bush grilling Tenet...

So sad to watch people deny themselves the truth... and for what? To defend a perverted ideology.
 
Is this another OMG OBAMA SUCKS topic? The dude is above average as a president.

But he's no Nixon. Probably the most savvy president about international relations the US has ever had. And since that's the main realm of of the executive branch...I'm a Nixon fan.
 
Oh, nevermind, I see this thread is just full of partisan idiots on both sides.

BUSH WUZ DA WURST!

NOWAI OBAMMER IZ DA WURST

You sound like children, I wish none of you could vote.
 
I think you're wrong there. Nixon won his re-election in November of 1972 and the Paris Peace Accords were signed in January of 1973. A scant 2 months later. Kissinger did jump the gun when he declared peace was at hand a bit. But it was with the added incentive of Linebacker II.
You are correct, it was when he was running in 1968.
 
A) Comparing the ACA to the prescription drug plan is hilarious, at minimum.
B) Last time I checked, education reform isn't a social welfare program which was the scope I was speaking in. Please try to keep up.
Assuming I watch Fox is hilarious as well. Your username fits.

A. Only to partisans. In reality expanding medicare costs the government more money than demanding everyone carry insurance.

B. Education "reform"...talk about hilarious.
 
Is this another OMG OBAMA SUCKS topic? The dude is above average as a president.

But he's no Nixon. Probably the most savvy president about international relations the US has ever had. And since that's the main realm of of the executive branch...I'm a Nixon fan.

Nixon began detente and one has to wonder if not for Watergate where that would have led to.
 
Hatuey seems stumped for a response, so... deflection is the order of the day.

There's nothing to deflect - you're so desperate you're try to bring Obama to the lowest level of American politics by comparing him to Republican scum. :shrug:
 
Bill Clinton, hands down
 
Nixon began detente and one has to wonder if not for Watergate where that would have led to.

If not for Watergate, Muskie runs against him in 72 instead of McGovern, and Nixon never sees a second term.

Muskie fell victim to inferior organizing, an over-reliance on party endorsements, and Nixon's "dirty tricks" operatives,[160][161][162] and in the March 7, 1972, New Hampshire primary, did worse than expected with McGovern coming in a close second.[163] As Muskie's campaign funding and support dried up, Hubert Humphrey, who had rejoined the Senate, became McGovern's primary rival for the nomination,[164] with Alabama governor George Wallace also in the mix after dominating the March 14 primary in Florida.
 
If not for Watergate, Muskie runs against him in 72 instead of McGovern, and Nixon never sees a second term.

Watergate really had nothing to do with the election of 1972. It was a very minor news story that wouldn't explode until later.
 
Ever since Nixon destroyed himself all by himself, republicans have been hell-bent on destroying, destroying the next three Democratic POTUSs just for starters..
 
A. Only to partisans. In reality expanding medicare costs the government more money than demanding everyone carry insurance.

B. Education "reform"...talk about hilarious.
You make a few mistakes here:
A) Data or it isn't true. If it is, I'll eat crow on that claim. However, you'll never convince me that the Medicare expansion hurts the country more than the ACA does.
B) What would you call it then? We had one education "system", it changed to a new one. Hence, "reformed".
C) You assume I supported Bush at any point, which I didn't. You probably think I voted for Romney as well huh?
 
You make a few mistakes here:
A) Data or it isn't true. If it is, I'll eat crow on that claim. However, you'll never convince me that the Medicare expansion hurts the country more than the ACA does.
B) What would you call it then? We had one education "system", it changed to a new one. Hence, "reformed".
C) You assume I supported Bush at any point, which I didn't. You probably think I voted for Romney as well huh?
C.) I could care less. My original statement still hold--Obama like Bush will fade away and become a footnote.
B.) No Child Left Behind is a joke. Reform is the last word I would consider for it.
A.)
The Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003 -- better known as the Medicare Modernization Act -- created a new benefit called Medicare Part D, which covers prescription drugs.

Gauging its price is tricky. How do you measure the cost of something that will continue to accumulate over the years and and has no end date?

...The true cost of the program is unknown since it will continue to grow. In fact, the Government Accountability Office shows that the cost could exceed $7 trillion in 75 years
PolitiFact Virginia | Bobby Scott says Republicans created $1 trillion prescription drug plan
 
Watergate really had nothing to do with the election of 1972. It was a very minor news story that wouldn't explode until later.

Do you really believe McGovern won that nomination because he was the best candidate the D's had in 1972? Really?
 
C.) I could care less. My original statement still hold--Obama like Bush will fade away and become a footnote.
B.) No Child Left Behind is a joke. Reform is the last word I would consider for it.
A.)
Give me a bit bro. Gotta go out for a while. I'll respond to this later.
 
Obama vs. Nixon.
Who is most sinister in their lying?

Benghazi. Americans died, Obama lied.
If you like your plan or doctor, you can keep your plan or doctor + you didn't listen American Idiots... I actually said "If you like your plan or doctor, you can keep your plan or doctor... AND...)

or

Covering for a 3rd rate burglary Nixon did not plan or approve, instead of letting them hang.
 
Do you really believe McGovern won that nomination because he was the best candidate the D's had in 1972? Really?

No, but I was looking at how the primaries went. The two January 72 primaries went to Muskie, in March Muskie won NH, Wallace took FL, Muskie ILL. You're man was looking good, then came April, McGovern took WI, ID and MASS while Humphrey won Penn. In May Humphrey won Ind with Wallace a very close second, humphrey won Ohio by 1 point over McGovern, Wallace took TN and NC, McGovern add NE, Humphrey WV, then Wallace won Maryland and Michigan. Wallace was shot in Maryland after taking 4 of the last 5. If he wasn't shot, Wallace had momentum and could have very well won the Democratic Nomination in 1972 instead of McGovern. After a very strong start, muskies last win was on March 21 in ILL. His momentum was spent.
 
Ever since Nixon destroyed himself all by himself, republicans have been hell-bent on destroying, destroying the next three Democratic POTUSs just for starters..

Oh my, I wonder what it was like in your classroom?

Did Republicans try to destroy Carter? No
Felonious Bill Clinton caused his own problems.
Obama said he'd be a uniter, said there was no red or blue America, just the US of A... and then on Day 1 tells R's they can't listen to Rush and get things done. Obama has lied about Benghazi, run guns to Mexico, slandered a cop as stupid, and lied, lied and lied about ObamaKare.

Demokrats ought to try running honest people.

Nixon or Obama... who is the more sinister liar?
 
I think you're wrong there. Nixon won his re-election in November of 1972 and the Paris Peace Accords were signed in January of 1973. A scant 2 months later. Kissinger did jump the gun when he declared peace was at hand a bit. But it was with the added incentive of Linebacker II.

Peace came in Vietnam because Congress refused any more funding, not because Nixon wanted it. Nixon won in 1968 because he had a "secret plan" to end the war...FIVE YEARS later when we surrendered the country to North Vietnam. There is no honor in anything Nixon did in Vietnam but plenty of shame.

In the 1968 election, Republican Richard Nixon claimed to have a plan to end the war in Vietnam, but, in fact, it took him five years to disengage the United States from Vietnam. Indeed, Richard Nixon presided over as many years of war in Indochina as did Johnson. About a third of the Americans who died in combat were killed during the Nixon presidency.
Insofar as he did have a plan to bring "peace with honor," it mainly entailed reducing American casualties by having South Vietnamese soldiers bear more of the ground fighting--a process he called "Vietnamization"--and defusing anti-war protests by ending the military draft. Nixon provided the South Vietnamese army with new training and improved weapons and tried to frighten the North Vietnamese to the peace table by demonstrating his willingness to bomb urban areas and mine harbors. He also hoped to orchestrate Soviet and Chinese pressure on North Vietnam.

The most controversial aspect of his strategy was an effort to cut the Ho Chi Minh supply trail by secretly bombing North Vietnamese sanctuaries in Cambodia and invading that country and Laos. The U.S. and South Vietnamese incursion into Cambodia in April 1970 helped destabilize the country, provoking a bloody civil war and bringing to power the murderous Khmer Rouge, a Communist group that evacuated Cambodia's cities and threw thousands into re-education camps.

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