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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    True, almost no one was HURT by Nixon's lies
    See my post about partisan hacks, TD.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    At least Nixon had the gumption to resign when he was caught in lies and scandal. Obama just whines and tries to pin things on the Republicans.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    See my post about partisan hacks, TD.
    Yeah to me a partisan hack would be one talking about Nixon given there was no loss of life and no one really suffered (save for the GOP). and Nixon was mainly a welfare socialist so the hawkishness comes from damning him because he was GOP rather than the fact his politics are something liberals should like



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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    At least Nixon had the gumption to resign when he was caught in lies and scandal. Obama just whines and tries to pin things on the Republicans.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    At least Nixon had the gumption to resign when he was caught in lies and scandal.
    Absolutely hilarious. Was this before or after he made numerous public speeches and appearances emphatically denying his involvement? How about the destruction of the pertinent evidence that implicated him in his lie and scandal? Attempted to fire the prosecutor assigned to the case? Till his last days he balked at the notion of resigning, only doing so when Congress and his own party vowed to impeach. Just an historically bankrupt post.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Yeah to me a partisan hack would be one talking about Nixon given there was no loss of life and no one really suffered (save for the GOP). and Nixon was mainly a welfare socialist so the hawkishness comes from damning him because he was GOP rather than the fact his politics are something liberals should like
    How did the "You can keep your plan" kill anybody?

    Oh, that's right, it didn't. Yeah, see my post about partisan hacks.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That invasion had Lon Nol's approval and in fact he wanted it. When Lon Nol overthrew Sihanouk, the North Vietnamese didn't really care as long as he left their sanctuaries alone. But the Cambodian people had a hatred of the Vietnamese and wanted him to throw the North Vietnamese out of Cambodia. So to go along with U.S. wishes he closed the port of Sihanoukville and his troops marched east. That was the wrong thing to do if he wanted to remain in power. But these decisions were made by Lon Nol himself. I have no doubt Nixon made plenty of promises to Lon Nol he was unable to keep. But Nixon had about much to do with causing the Killing Fields of Pol Pot as Churchill had to do with causing the Holocaust and Hitlers attempt to exterminating the Jews
    Nixon promised to end the war in 1968 and instead he stepped it up. Collateral damage was not his concern when he bombed Hanoi and invaded Laos and Cambodia. His efforts to "win" an unwinnable war was the cause of millions of civilian casualties and 20,000 American deaths. Even you can see there is nothing there to be proud of.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    True, almost no one was HURT by Nixon's lies
    ALMOST no one.... except the 15,000 soldiers that died after he campaigned on "Peace with Honor"...
    Or how about the MASSIVE increase of SS that he gave that is one of the root causes of the unsustainable debt that we see today? That debt is not hurting anyone... Yet


    I am not an Obama fan by any stretch. But to say that Obama hurt more people than Nixon is pretty far fetched.
    Even all of the Nobel Peace Prize Winner's UAV strikes cannot compare to damage done by the escalation of VietNam.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    I am not an Obama fan by any stretch. But to say that Obama hurt more people than Nixon is pretty far fetched.
    Even all of the Nobel Peace Prize Winner's UAV strikes cannot compare to damage done by the escalation of VietNam.
    How about the estimated 2.5 million killed after the fall of South Vietnam? I still remember the refugees fleeing from South Vietnam, even though most seem to have forgotten them.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Nixon promised to end the war in 1968 and instead he stepped it up. Collateral damage was not his concern when he bombed Hanoi and invaded Laos and Cambodia. His efforts to "win" an unwinnable war was the cause of millions of civilian casualties and 20,000 American deaths. Even you can see there is nothing there to be proud of.
    Hmm. The war was winnable if we were willing to win it. The shame about Vietnam is when we first became involved, our goal was a stalemate, not winning. If those from JFK on had listened to Eisenhower and McArthur about getting into another land war in Asia, Vietnam would have never happened. Twice Eisenhower refused to involve our troops there during his tenure.

    But you are wrong about Collateral Damage not being of concern, lots of valid military tagets in and around Hanoi and Haiphong were not attacked because of the concern of civilian casualities and collateral damage. In Cambodia even with Sihanouk in charge, Nixon asked for approval to bomb to eastern enclaves of the NVA. The North Vietnamese had always insisted they had no troops there. Sihanouk also knew that the NVA in that region had forced all Cambodians out of their areas of control, supply depots and sanctuaries. Sihanouk gave his tacit approval by saying something akin to, "How can you bomb something that is not there."

    The meaning was since the NVA wasn't there, per the North Vietnamese, the bombing wouldn't be actually taking place since America wasn't bombing something that wasn't there.

    Nixon never did invade Laos as he did with troops into Cambodia for those couple of months with the blessing of the then Cambodian president Lon Nol.
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