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Thread: Obama vs. Nixon

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    A liar is a liar, but Nixon takes the cake in the "sinister" department.
    Obama is just a smooth-talking mediocrity caught in the web of his party's unworkable policies.
    Now, Nixon truly was a "transformational figure": from his disastrous economic policies to his cynical "Southern strategy", we are still living with dire consequences of his actions.
    What about his liberal drug policy, which for the first time authorized drug treatment instead of prison for minor drug offenses.

    Yea, that one has got to go too! Better let them rot in jail for having a joint!

    Such a supporter of the CLean Air Act that he created the Environmental Protection Agency! Yea, that complete tool of corporations has to go, it has ruined our environment for decades.

    And that damned Occupational Health and Safety Administration, things are so much more deadly since that organization was created! Nixon should be shot for that alone!

    He also tried to get health care reform passed, which would have mandated employer paid health care, and subsidies for the rest.

    I can go on, but the funny thing is that most of those who blast President Nixon the most have no idea what all he really did for the country.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    For most people, that statement is true. The reason people are losing their coverage is because it sucks too bad, the ACA has provisions in it where policies must keep a certain standard of coverage, and since about 5% of people's policies don't meet those standards, they lose those policies.

    Was it a lie? Yeah, technically, but his statement does apply to most Americans. Trying to compare Obama to Nixon is just ridiculous.
    Well, "Read my lips - no new taxes" was "right for most people" as well, and Herbie Bush caught a lot of crap too. Hell, if you wanna play that game, we can argue what Slick Willie meant by "sexual relations" that he did not have.

    You're not doing your fellow Democrats any favors by attempting to quantify or justify his "lie".

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well, "Read my lips - no new taxes" was "right for most people" as well, and Herbie Bush caught a lot of crap too. Hell, if you wanna play that game, we can argue what Slick Willie meant by "sexual relations" that he did not have.

    You're not doing your fellow Democrats any favors by attempting to quantify or justify his "lie".
    Yeah, I'd say it's about as equal to the first Bush's no new taxes line; was it wrong? Yeah. Does it scar his entire presidency? Hell no. I'm not trying to justify it, just put it in context and point out the absurdity in people trying to compare him with one of the most corrupt Presidents in our history.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    For most people, that statement is true. The reason people are losing their coverage is because it sucks too bad, the ACA has provisions in it where policies must keep a certain standard of coverage, and since about 5% of people's policies don't meet those standards, they lose those policies.

    Was it a lie? Yeah, technically, but his statement does apply to most Americans. Trying to compare Obama to Nixon is just ridiculous.
    Technically it was a lie?

    Has Obama been supplying crack pipes and smack across the nation? Well, that's what Socialism is at its core... a philosophy that relies on addicts and ignorants.

    Technically Socialists said Felonious Bill Clinton didn't have sex with that woman... changing the meaning of sex. Simply ignore the fact he stuck his member in her yap and blew his wad all over her, but technically it wasn't sex. Not to mention his hairless Cuban Dildo Cigar.

    Technically speaking, Obama has blown his wad all over us. Some seem to like it, and even defend it. Just a mere enjoyable technicality from a pathological liar.
    Pass the Obama piece (no misspelling) pipe... hey... why is it shaped like Obama's dick? Never mind...

    All Americans are losing and will continue to lose their policies.
    Nobody will keep their plan if they like it. All a big fat lie.

    The plan is to have government be the decider. Ask Ron Fournier, who is lamenting Obama's lies because he is screwing the chance at single payer, North Korean Kare.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yeah, I'd say it's about as equal to the first Bush's no new taxes line; was it wrong? Yeah. Does it scar his entire presidency? Hell no. I'm not trying to justify it, just put it in context and point out the absurdity in people trying to compare him with one of the most corrupt Presidents in our history.
    He's not even in the top 10%, YS. Lincoln suspended habeus corpus and jailed dissentors. Harding essentially made himself available to the highest bidder (Teapot Dome). There are presidents out there who did much worse than Nixon, but he's everyone's favorite scapegoat. He was guilty of excessive ambition and turning a blind eye.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    He's not even in the top 10%, YS. Lincoln suspended habeus corpus and jailed dissentors. Harding essentially made himself available to the highest bidder (Teapot Dome). There are presidents out there who did much worse than Nixon, but he's everyone's favorite scapegoat. He was guilty of excessive ambition and turning a blind eye.
    It always puzzled me that Nixon was one of the most Liberal Presidents of all time, yet he is absolutely reviled by Democrats.

    Then you have Kennedy, one of the most Conservative in the last century, yet he is praised.

    This tells me it is all about their party, and not their actual beliefs or agendas.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    He's not even in the top 10%, YS. Lincoln suspended habeus corpus and jailed dissentors. Harding essentially made himself available to the highest bidder (Teapot Dome). There are presidents out there who did much worse than Nixon, but he's everyone's favorite scapegoat. He was guilty of excessive ambition and turning a blind eye.
    I'd say he's in the top 10%, he's not the worst, but what he did was pretty damning.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    It always puzzled me that Nixon was one of the most Liberal Presidents of all time, yet he is absolutely reviled by Democrats.

    Then you have Kennedy, one of the most Conservative in the last century, yet he is praised.

    This tells me it is all about their party, and not their actual beliefs or agendas.
    As far as I'm concerned, they were both outstanding presidents. And yes, Nixon was indeed quite liberal in policy while Kennedy was quite conservative. If Kennedy was alive today, he'd have liberals fuming at him. They'd call him a war hawk for his handling of BoP and CMC with Khruschev, and a thief for trying to pass the then-largest corporate tax rate cut in history (later done by LBJ). Of course, in the 60s Democrats were still worthy of respect. It wasn't until the 70s that Democrats turned into the sniveling pile of bitch that you see today.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yeah, I'd say it's about as equal to the first Bush's no new taxes line; was it wrong? Yeah. Does it scar his entire presidency? Hell no. I'm not trying to justify it, just put it in context and point out the absurdity in people trying to compare him with one of the most corrupt Presidents in our history.
    But, but, but you don't explain yourself.

    How does someone... Nixon... who covered up a 3rd rate burglary that he did not mastermind compare with a president who failed to protect Americans in an area of the world known as a terror threat, and then lies about the dead Americans that resulted from his miserable judgement?

    Just election year politics? What happened to the "transparency"?

    How does a 3rd rate burglary that Nixon did not mastermind compare with a president who lied about "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan"? An effort to co-opt 6% of the economy for the benefit of his party? And then the sleazeball turns around and lies about the lies... claiming the American public WERE NOT LISTENING.

    Just election year politics? What happened to the "transparency"?

    I am waiting to hear how the coverup from a 3rd rate burglary is anywhere close to the same league as what Obama has lied about repeatedly.
    I look forward to seeing if someone can make a halfway plausible case.
    If you can... Obama wants you pronto at his side; good pay and benefits and you don't have to be on his sucky healthkare plan. Val Jarrett is obviously stumped as she had Obama do a mea culpa.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    For most people, that statement is true. The reason people are losing their coverage is because it sucks too bad, the ACA has provisions in it where policies must keep a certain standard of coverage, and since about 5% of people's policies don't meet those standards, they lose those policies.

    Was it a lie? Yeah, technically, but his statement does apply to most Americans. Trying to compare Obama to Nixon is just ridiculous.
    True, almost no one was HURT by Nixon's lies



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