View Poll Results: Who is the more sinister liar?

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    39 47.56%
  • Richard Milhouse Nixon

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Oh my, I wonder what it was like in your classroom?

    Did Republicans try to destroy Carter? No
    Felonious Bill Clinton caused his own problems.
    Obama said he'd be a uniter, said there was no red or blue America, just the US of A... and then on Day 1 tells R's they can't listen to Rush and get things done. Obama has lied about Benghazi, run guns to Mexico, slandered a cop as stupid, and lied, lied and lied about ObamaKare.

    Demokrats ought to try running honest people.

    Nixon or Obama... who is the more sinister liar?
    You've got your repetitive regurgitated TPs all lined up for Veterans' weekend..btw, your K belongs with the RepubLie Kons this century..you couldn't possibly imagine what my Chem/physics students learned unless you finished as high as Carter did at the Naval Academy
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Peace came in Vietnam because Congress refused any more funding, not because Nixon wanted it. Nixon won in 1968 because he had a "secret plan" to end the war...FIVE YEARS later when we surrendered the country to North Vietnam. There is no honor in anything Nixon did in Vietnam but plenty of shame.



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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Anyone who doesn't say Nixon is a partisan hack.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Anyone who doesn't say Nixon is a partisan hack.
    I wouldn't go that far. "I am not a crook" is not leaps and bounds more dishonest than "if you like your policy, you can keep your policy".

    This is, of course, presuming that you believe Obama's statement is a lie as opposed to a case of immense stupidity. Pick your poison.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I wouldn't go that far. "I am not a crook" is not leaps and bounds more dishonest than "if you like your policy, you can keep your policy".

    This is, of course, presuming that you believe Obama's statement is a lie as opposed to a case of immense stupidity. Pick your poison.
    Political shortcut. If we look at the actual policies being eliminated, him explaining it back then would have complicated matters. But, he probably should have mentioned that crappy, under-insured policies would be swept away.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Anyone who doesn't say Nixon is a partisan hack.
    It really does take a certain level of GOP-worship to say Obama lies worse than Nixon.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It really does take a certain level of GOP-worship to say Obama lies worse than Nixon.
    yeah people dying including an ambassador being sodomized and then murdered isn't nearly as bad as Nixon trying to cover up a break in that did not change the election



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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Political shortcut. If we look at the actual policies being eliminated, him explaining it back then would have complicated matters. But, he probably should have mentioned that crappy, under-insured policies would be swept away.
    I would've been good with that. "Somewhat mistaken" is better than "outright lie".

    Because of that, he's not much better than "I am not a crook" or "Read my lips - no new taxes". When you make pretty bold claims in a very rigid manner, you allow for brushback that gives your political enemies to call you out on BS.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Anyone who doesn't say Nixon is a partisan hack.
    Really?

    Why not offer an opinion why this would be.
    I am very interested in your rationale for this.
    With such a clear-cut opinion, the rationale should be equally clear, sober and absent of partisanship.

    I admit I am a partisan, a former Lib with an open mind who left the flock.
    I look forward to your non-partisan, lucid response.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I wouldn't go that far. "I am not a crook" is not leaps and bounds more dishonest than "if you like your policy, you can keep your policy".

    This is, of course, presuming that you believe Obama's statement is a lie as opposed to a case of immense stupidity. Pick your poison.
    For most people, that statement is true. The reason people are losing their coverage is because it sucks too bad, the ACA has provisions in it where policies must keep a certain standard of coverage, and since about 5% of people's policies don't meet those standards, they lose those policies.

    Was it a lie? Yeah, technically, but his statement does apply to most Americans. Trying to compare Obama to Nixon is just ridiculous.
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