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  • Barack Hussein Obama

    39 47.56%
  • Richard Milhouse Nixon

    43 52.44%
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    What do you not understand about "THE BUCK STOPS HERE"?
    I understand it. So does Hillary. Give it another 18 months and the buck will stop here again.

    He is the CEO of the country. I bet if it was some corporate CEO who also was just leading a company and was not "involved with any of the day to day management", you would be screaming for his head if similar things happened.

    It is his total disconnect and denial of any responsibility for himself or anybody else in his administration that bothers me.

    Probably the last Democrat President that I really fully respected was President Truman. Because he really did take responsibility, not just shrug and go "not my fault".
    Obama is a salesman. Just like Bush. Did you whine about the job he did? That band of merry men never took responsibility for their mistakes either.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Nobody died from Nixon's lies.
    Nixon and his Secretary of State Henry Kissinger deliberately sabotaged the Paris peace talks by giving a backdoor to Saigon. Half of the Americans on the wall died because of the machinations by this disgusting person, after the collapse of the peace talks. He also illegally extended the war into neutral Cambodia, despite his promises. The bombing of Cambodia resulted in the death of tens of thousands of Cambodians and is partially responsible for the rise of Pol Pot. The US support of Pinochet's coup in Chile resulted in the overthrow of a democratically elected government, the assassination of a general who was committed to republicanism, and the installation of a 15 year-long regime that tortured, disappeared, and murdered untold numbers of Chileans.

    So no, people did die from Nixon's lies. Infinitely more people died from Nixon's lies than from Obama's "lies."
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I'm simply surprised nobody on the right in the national debate has made the comparison.
    Maybe because they aren't retarded and have a clue about what is actually going on.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    you sure do seem fixated on anal rape. THat seems odd.

    BTW: Do you care that under Rummy, Bush and Cheney our boys in Abu Graib and probably Gitmo were jamming things up the butts of innocent people held as terrorist suspects?
    http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/cia...omized-te.html
    you seem oblivious of what happened to our ambassador. That sort of horrific torture and death is an insult to all of America. Why wasn't USAF fighters deployed to destroy those who attacked OUR NATION? Why do you care more for terrorists than our own diplomats? Do you really despise America so much?



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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you seem oblivious of what happened to our ambassador. That sort of horrific torture and death is an insult to all of America. Why wasn't USAF fighters deployed to destroy those who attacked OUR NATION? Why do you care more for terrorists than our own diplomats? Do you really despise America so much?
    Alleged terrorists who ended up being completely innocent of terrorism. Funny how your sort always leaves that part out.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Alleged terrorists who ended up being completely innocent of terrorism. Funny how your sort always leaves that part out.
    there was not even a suspicion that our ambassador was anything other than a diplomat. how many innocents died in 9-11?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there was not even a suspicion that our ambassador was anything other than a diplomat. how many innocents died in 9-11?
    Roughly 3000. And, yes. Our ambassador came to a bitter cold end. Sad. Infuriating. And, definitely a reason to seek a scapegoat. But, I think he knew the score. He was on his own. Our embassies are not fortresses. The man had courage. You all diminish him with your whining.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Roughly 3000. And, yes. Our ambassador came to a bitter cold end. Sad. Infuriating. And, definitely a reason to seek a scapegoat. But, I think he knew the score. He was on his own. Our embassies are not fortresses. The man had courage. You all diminish him with your whining.
    LOL your sad attempt to justify the incompetence of the administration is hilarious. the Embassy is America. Our Military was prevented from Protecting AMERICA



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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    LOL your sad attempt to justify the incompetence of the administration is hilarious. the Embassy is America. Our Military was prevented from Protecting AMERICA
    Oh puh-lease. Save that rhetoric for your Fox News worshiping friends. Diplomatic outposts are not fortresses. If they were, they would not be very diplomatic.

    RSOs depend upon Marine Security Guards, U.S. Navy Seabees, surveillance detection teams, local guards, cleared American guards, local investigators, host government officials, and other DS elements domestically and abroad to provide assistance in combating criminal, intelligence, and terrorist threats against U.S. interests worldwide. These entities play a crucial role in the DS security efforts overseas.

    At our highest threat posts, RSOs may often require further security assistance. In those instances, DS dispatches Mobile Security Teams from Washington to conduct training for embassy personnel, their dependents, and local guards in protective tactics such as attack recognition, self-defense, hostage survival, and defensive driving. These teams also provide emergency security support to overseas posts, including protective security for COMs, surveillance detection operations, and assistance with post evacuations. In cases where the host country is either unable or unwilling to provide necessary security for the conduct of American diplomacy, specially trained DS special agents lead contractor-provided personal protection teams and guard services in areas of ongoing conflict.

    Securing Our Embassies Overseas
    Sometimes keeping it real goes wrong...this was one of those times.
    Last edited by calamity; 11-09-13 at 11:42 PM.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Oh puh-lease. Save that rhetoric for you Fox News worshiping friends. Diplomatic outposts are not fortresses. If they were, they would not be very diplomatic.


    Sometimes keeping it real goes wrong...this was one of those times.
    I guess you never heard the term AIR MOBILE



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