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  • Richard Milhouse Nixon

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Thread: Obama vs. Nixon

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Strange isn't, both Vietnam and China moving towards Capitalism and we toward Socialism or more government control of business. Military wise, we are becoming closer and closer and may soon have the rights to use Cam Ranh Bay for our Pacific ships. I agree on the gay rights and don't forget, he did get the Start Treaty, disengaged us from Iraq and is about to, I hope from Afghanistan. So as to his foreign policy, I haven't been too disappointed.

    Now the ACA has been a sore spot with me, not so much as to what he was trying to do, but for the way it was pushed through congress. As a leader, he does seem to leave a lot to be desired. The first two years of his administration, he let Pelosi and Reid run his domestic policy. He let Biden negotiate and make the deal with McConnell over the first debt ceiling debate. I have stopped listening to him when he give speeches as they are nothing more than campaign speeches.

    I really haven't seen much difference between him and Bush II. Both either left or leaves much to be desired. I go back to Eisenhower as presidents I can personally remember their policies and how it affect us and the nation. I would only rank Nixon, Ford and Carter below Bush II and Obama. So I am not impressed with either.
    Unfortunately, as often, I agree with you. But I suppose thats how it works. Each president makes one contribution and has one failure to be remembered by.

    Yes, I'm SICK of campaign speeches.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You are.
    ROTFLOL...

    Well, at least Nixon was honest about his guns policy desires. Obama was not.
    Obama wasn't honest about his stance on gays.
    Obama wasn't honest about "If you can keep your plan... your Dr."
    Obama was not honest about running guns to Mexico.
    Obama was not honest about Benghazi.
    Obama was not honest about being a Uniter; you know... no red state, no blue state... ROTFLOL...
    Obama was not honest about Rev. Wright... as if he never heard his poison... ROTFLOL

    Of course, I am sinister for pointing this out and mocking my Old Party at every turn, and coming from you, I take that as a compliment.
    It tells me I am doing everything right.

    I know comparing Nixon to Obama, and knowing Obama is by miles The Sinister One... pisses true Beliebers like you off. It sticks in your craw because there is no comparing Nixon's coverup to Obama's pathological lying.

    I'm simply surprised nobody on the right in the national debate has made the comparison. It's a worthy one, where Nixon would look like a saintly creature; a dumb ass who covered up a 3rd rate burglary he did not plan or know of until after the fact.

    It's so transparent now that Obama has serious problems with the truth, that he lies, and lies, and lies... that Team Pravda cannot cover for him, but it doesn't stop The Jackals from trying!

    The latest lies are "he's sorry". He will "listen"
    ROTFLOL... OK, he's sorry Team Pravda didn't mount a defense for the indefensible.
    He's sorry he got caught.
    Sorry about the misery he's created? **** no! He's happy to have shoved Obamakare down our throats.

    Listen? ROTFLMFAO... Listen... This prick doesn't listen any more than Stalin listened.
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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    tell us what would have been different if Humphrey would have won

    you want to blame nixon for a war he didn't start.
    Do you think fewer than four men would have died in Lybia, Iran or Iraq if McWarmongerCain was elected in 08?

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    ROTFLOL...

    Well, at least Nixon was honest about his guns policy desires. Obama was not.
    Obama wasn't honest about his stance on gays.
    Obama wasn't honest about "If you can keep your plan... your Dr."
    Obama was not honest about running guns to Mexico.
    Obama was not honest about Benghazi.
    Obama was not honest about being a Uniter; you know... no red state, no blue state... ROTFLOL...
    Obama was not honest about Rev. Wright... as if he never heard his poison... ROTFLOL

    Of course, I am sinister for pointing this out and mocking my Old Party at every turn, and coming from you, I take that as a compliment.
    It tells me I am doing everything right.

    I know comparing Nixon to Obama, and knowing Obama is by miles The Sinister One... pisses true Beliebers like you off. It sticks in your craw because there is no comparing Nixon's coverup to Obama's pathological lying.

    I'm simply surprised nobody on the right in the national debate has made the comparison. It's a worthy one, where Nixon would look like a saintly creature; a dumb ass who covered up a 3rd rate burglary he did not plan or know of until after the fact.

    It's so transparent now that Obama has serious problems with the truth, that he lies, and lies, and lies... that Team Pravda cannot cover for him, but it doesn't stop The Jackals from trying!

    The latest lies are "he's sorry". He will "listen"
    ROTFLOL... OK, he's sorry Team Pravda didn't mount a defense for the indefensible.
    He's sorry he got caught.
    Sorry about the misery he's created? **** no! He's happy to have shoved Obamakare down our throats.

    Listen? ROTFLMFAO... Listen... This prick doesn't listen any more than Stalin listened.
    You forgot the we don't spy on Americans we just collect data on them "lie". But, of course, Nixon did that too. And, Reagan said he never traded arms for hostages.

    Just saying.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Do you think fewer than four men would have died in Lybia, Iran or Iraq if McWarmongerCain was elected in 08?
    less ambassadors would have been anally raped and murdered



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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nixon was Republican scum. Was he not a Republican? Was he not scum? Yep. Can't wait to see you do acrobatics.
    LOL

    But Obama IS Democrat scum. Is he not a Democrat? Is he not scum? Yep.

    And thank you so much for demonstrating how that can be said in a non-partisan manner.
    Who chimes "No Absolutes!" chimes absolutely.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    less ambassadors would have been anally raped and murdered
    you sure do seem fixated on anal rape. THat seems odd.

    BTW: Do you care that under Rummy, Bush and Cheney our boys in Abu Graib and probably Gitmo were jamming things up the butts of innocent people held as terrorist suspects?
    http://boingboing.net/2012/12/14/cia...omized-te.html

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Do you think fewer than four men would have died in Lybia, Iran or Iraq if McWarmongerCain was elected in 08?
    The issue really is if another individual would have prevented it, they likely would not have prevented it.

    But I think most other Presidents would have admitted a mistake happened, and worked to prevent it from happening again.

    Look, I am not a huge Clinton fan. And yes, he told his lies as well. But when Blackhawk Down happened and they were dragging the bodies of our Soldiers through the streets, the President got up and took responsibility. And even though I never did vote for him, that one incident won him a lot of respect for me.

    I can point at a lot of Presidents I did not like, Carter, Clinton, Johnson, but at least most of them when things in their administration went bad they would stand up and take responsibility. As the sign on Harry Truman's desk said, "THE BUCK STOPS HERE".

    President Limp Waffle takes responsibility for nothing, he does nothing, he stands for nothing. I honestly do not think he lies, as much as he never tells the truth. Benghazi (and the subsequent arrest of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula), ACA, Fast & Furious, IRS targeting Conservative groups, closing Gitmo, recording reporter phone calls, recording foreign heads of state, the James Rosen affair, GAO-GSA reports of extravagant "conventions" held by IRS, HHS, VA, and other departments (costing millions of dollars each), Alejandro Mayorkas, firing of IGs who investigate Obama friends, Solyndra (and the dozens of other companies run by Obama supporters that got big checks only to go under).

    And in All of these and more, the President says he had nothing to do with it, he is not responsible, etc, etc, etc.

    It even makes me wonder if his daughters are really his daughters. Because the way he reacts to anything else, I bet if asked he would say he had nothing to do with them, and they are not his responsibility.
    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. - John Stuart Mill

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    The issue really is if another individual would have prevented it, they likely would not have prevented it.

    But I think most other Presidents would have admitted a mistake happened, and worked to prevent it from happening again.

    Look, I am not a huge Clinton fan. And yes, he told his lies as well. But when Blackhawk Down happened and they were dragging the bodies of our Soldiers through the streets, the President got up and took responsibility. And even though I never did vote for him, that one incident won him a lot of respect for me.

    I can point at a lot of Presidents I did not like, Carter, Clinton, Johnson, but at least most of them when things in their administration went bad they would stand up and take responsibility. As the sign on Harry Truman's desk said, "THE BUCK STOPS HERE".

    President Limp Waffle takes responsibility for nothing, he does nothing, he stands for nothing. I honestly do not think he lies, as much as he never tells the truth. Benghazi (and the subsequent arrest of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula), ACA, Fast & Furious, IRS targeting Conservative groups, closing Gitmo, recording reporter phone calls, recording foreign heads of state, the James Rosen affair, GAO-GSA reports of extravagant "conventions" held by IRS, HHS, VA, and other departments (costing millions of dollars each), Alejandro Mayorkas, firing of IGs who investigate Obama friends, Solyndra (and the dozens of other companies run by Obama supporters that got big checks only to go under).

    And in All of these and more, the President says he had nothing to do with it, he is not responsible, etc, etc, etc.

    It even makes me wonder if his daughters are really his daughters. Because the way he reacts to anything else, I bet if asked he would say he had nothing to do with them, and they are not his responsibility.
    That Obama is not involved with any of the day to day management would not surprise me at all. He's not a leader. He's a salesman.

    When it comes to detached leadership, Obama is another W Bush. Totally. The only difference is that instead of Cheney running the show, we have a team of incompetents running it now. We went from Darth Vader being in charge to C-3PO & R2D2 taking over operations.

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    Re: Obama vs. Nixon

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    That Obama is not involved with any of the day to day management would not surprise me at all. He's not a leader. He's a salesman.
    What do you not understand about "THE BUCK STOPS HERE"?

    He is the CEO of the country. I bet if it was some corporate CEO who also was just leading a company and was not "involved with any of the day to day management", you would be screaming for his head if similar things happened.

    It is his total disconnect and denial of any responsibility for himself or anybody else in his administration that bothers me.

    Probably the last Democrat President that I really fully respected was President Truman. Because he really did take responsibility, not just shrug and go "not my fault".
    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. - John Stuart Mill

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