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Incognito- what should the punishment be?

What should happen to Incognito of the Miami Dolphins?


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There have been other complaints about this guy in the past.
Yes there have. And there were reports that he went to business classes, charm school, and is taking anger management. Im not trying to paint him as a saint...but you keep wanting to hearken to the past while ignoring the FACT that his CURRENT teammates support him.
 
I don't doubt that "hazing" of players is part of a broader culture, but this issue may go beyond that. Additional incidents such as the possible one cited by ESPN would argue that the hazing angle merely masked a larger behavioral/conduct problem on the part of Incognito. The NFL will need to look at all the relevant evidence and if there is a larger problem should deal with it.

This is what I have said. From his freshman year at Nebraska to now, Incognito has either been suspended or ties were cut by every team for which he has played. His tweets that I've seen are just schoolyard stupid. I mean, seriously, tweeting that you want to crap in someone's mouth? That someone's a "big weirdo"?

But if he threatened harm to Martin's family, that's not pranks or "hazing"; that's a crime. And I'm not buying all the "Boys will be boys" stuff either because there are plenty of NFL players who don't behave the way Incognito does.
 
Chris...all you have to do (if you are interested in anything more than the cause of anti-bullying) is look at the Miami Dolphins locker room and how they have responded to this whole situation. Incognito may indeed be a jerk. Funny though...his coaches went to HIM as a leader and asked him to toughen Martin up. His teammates have rallied around HIM, not Martin. Other players in the league have supported him as well.

As I said, this says far more about the culture of the Miami Dolphins than anything else. What do they see in Incognito that the coaches of Nebraska, Oregon, and the St. Louis Cardinals missed? The guy is an embarrassment to the game.
 
This is what I have said. From his freshman year at Nebraska to now, Incognito has either been suspended or ties were cut by every team for which he has played. His tweets that I've seen are just schoolyard stupid. I mean, seriously, tweeting that you want to crap in someone's mouth? That someone's a "big weirdo"?

But if he threatened harm to Martin's family, that's not pranks or "hazing"; that's a crime. And I'm not buying all the "Boys will be boys" stuff either because there are plenty of NFL players who don't behave the way Incognito does.

Yet people on here continue to post that this sort of stuff is all part of the 'locker room culture' and therefore we should just accept it. Again, read the Cam Cleland interview posted earlier in this thread.
 
Yes there have. And there were reports that he went to business classes, charm school, and is taking anger management. Im not trying to paint him as a saint...but you keep wanting to hearken to the past while ignoring the FACT that his CURRENT teammates support him.

Having his current teammates - at least the vocal few - support him is meaningless, other than to perhaps underline that this is one sick locker room.
 
I think someone that's really hurting for a tackle would take a chance on him, but he'd probably be one of the worst paid tackles out there, and probably play RT to protect against a 2nd rusher and not the star DE.

He's gonna need to re-earn his stripes.

Nobody is going to sign up for the negative publicity and media attention that this guy would bring. He ain't Michael Vick.
 
Yeah but now everyone knows how soft he is. It's like blood in the water.

How in the hell do you know how 'soft' he is? Because he isn't like the degenerate Incognito, that makes him soft?
 
Nobody is going to sign up for the negative publicity and media attention that this guy would bring. He ain't Michael Vick.

Signing Martin would be positive PR. It'd be giving him another chance, and allowing him to prove his toughness.
 
Soccer is a more feminine sport, football is a different animal.

There is nothing 'feminine' about soccer. Had you ever played it at a competitive level, you would know that.
 
All this bullying talk is laughable. If Martin didn't have such soft shoulders, we wouldn't have this issue today. I predict martin never plays football again.

and I'll bet you are a bully, aren't you?
 
As I said, this says far more about the culture of the Miami Dolphins than anything else. What do they see in Incognito that the coaches of Nebraska, Oregon, and the St. Louis Cardinals missed? The guy is an embarrassment to the game.
YOU yourself cited the article from Cam Cleland. What that article very states is that Richie Incognito is just another guy in the NFL.
 
I'm on record prediciting a Jerry Jones-type owner will take him eventually..
He's done for the year with a buy-out..
Btw, look for Tampa Bay in the upset of Miami Monday night .
Nobody is going to sign up for the negative publicity and media attention that this guy would bring. He ain't Michael Vick.
 
YOU yourself cited the article from Cam Cleland. What that article very states is that Richie Incognito is just another guy in the NFL.

Actually, it doesn't. Cleland implies that Incognito was borderline psychopathic and a 'cancer' in the locker room.
 
and I'll bet you are a bully, aren't you?

What does that word even mean?

It's some crap fabrication so that we can have protected classes. You can't say anything to a gay person or you're a bully. You can't say anything to a black person or you're a bully. It's a way of putting protected classes like minorities and homosexuals in to neat little "do not disturb" boxes so that they can run rampant and do whatever they want without normalizing societal consequences.
 
Actually, it doesn't. Cleland implies that Incognito was borderline psychopathic and a 'cancer' in the locker room.

Did you just read the parts o the article you liked? Did you miss the part where Cleland talked about the hazing he endured as a rookie? Wait...you did, didn't you?
 
The whole "bully" thing is the same vain as the hate laws. You can beat up a white guy and get a couple years in jail. You beat up a black guy or a gay and now you're doing double time for the same crime.

Protected classes.

It's bull****, it's stupid, and I'm calling it for what it is.

This martin guy is soft, and people with agendas are just exploiting his situation to trump up their protected classes.
 
What does that word even mean?

It's some crap fabrication so that we can have protected classes. You can't say anything to a gay person or you're a bully. You can't say anything to a black person or you're a bully. It's a way of putting protected classes like minorities and homosexuals in to neat little "do not disturb" boxes so that they can run rampant and do whatever they want without normalizing societal consequences.

Oh, bull****.
 
YOU yourself cited the article from Cam Cleland. What that article very states is that Richie Incognito is just another guy in the NFL.

He sounds like a jerk to me.
 
Having his current teammates - at least the vocal few - support him is meaningless, other than to perhaps underline that this is one sick locker room.
it tells me the guys who know both players, have been to camp with them since the summer, understand the situation better than any of us
this would be an ideal opportunity to criticize a guy you would no longer want playing beside you
but that hasn't happened
instead, we see quite the opposite
they have come out in support of incognito
 
Wow, what a lazy, nonsensical, red herring of a response. Tip: Don't start a thread if you don't want to engage people.

stay off threads if yoou have nothing but personal attacks
 
I can't imagine why Martin would fall out with a guy who threatened to kill him, assault his mother, and participate in the gang rape of his sister. Guess he's just not the 'manly man' that Incognito is.

And I"it's a violent sport" is about the lamest excuse imaginable for this Neanderthal behavior.

First of all when I played in high school, I personally have said all that and more in practice to my teammates and they vice versa. In a game there was NOTHING off limits talking trash to the other team. We said some really mean ****. The words don't mean jack on the field. They only thing that matters is on the field or off is do the guys have your back, which when I went school they most certainly did and I had theirs. Quite frankly if this primarily about WORDs then Martin needed to go because on a football field the trash talking that goes on is just psychological warfare, and he couldn't hack it. Those boys play for money and they are in a extremely violent sport and further their careers depend on not only their performance but that of their teammates. If their teammate is weak minded they will be like wolf's and weed the weak out because they are not affordable. That's the way it is. Eat or be eaten. You find it distasteful, I see it as the life they CHOSE and I for one respect it. Martin found he didn't like it, and he decided to leave. I respect that. I bet you he didn't particularly like playing college ball either, why he continued I don't know. In any case it is what it is and in my mind blown out of proportion by a fair margin.
 
He sounds like a jerk to me.

If you played across from him he would come off as a complete dick. Here's the catch that's part and parcel of the job which is to screw with his opponents heads.
 
No, I'd just equate it to what minimal human conduct ought to be like. "It's just the locker room" is no longer an acceptable excuse for sub-human conduct.

The locker IS the place were you get to act like a BEAST. That and the field is were you release your primal urges. I still have those urges now that am a bit removed from my youth, I use fists, blades, and guns against inanimate objects, and violent video games to relieve those aggressions. I am very aggressive by nature and it is quite helpful for my ability to maintain my mask of civility to have a cathartic release.
 
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