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Incognito- what should the punishment be?

What should happen to Incognito of the Miami Dolphins?


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I think you have to be a man to understand.

Men like to handle problems internally. If you have a beef with a dude, you settle it with that dude. You don't go and tell the world - and the media. That's a capital offense in an NFL locker room.

Women tattle. Women go to HR. Women air their grievences to everyone else. Martin did a bitch move.

Come on, the guy acted like a retard on the video. I can just imagine how he acted in the locker room, but probably like a total douche.
 
Come on, the guy acted like a retard on the video. I can just imagine how he acted in the locker room, but probably like a total douche.

He acted like a large, burly, manly-man - like they all are.

Like I said - you need to be a man to understand the locker room mentality.
 
He acted like a large, burly, manly-man - like they all are.

Like I said - you need to be a man to understand the locker room mentality.

He acted like a stupid teenager IMO.
 
He acted like a stupid teenager IMO.

He went over the line a bit, but not nearly (I suspect) to the extent you think he did.

People seem to keep trying to equate a locker room to a law firm boardroom.
 
You know what they say about apples and where they tend to fall...

On 15 October 2011, Luis Suárez was accused of racially abusing Patrice Evra,[110] and the English Football Association opened up an investigation into the incident.[110] On 16 November, the FA announced they would be charging Suárez, while his club, Liverpool, announced support for their player.[111] On 20 December, the FA concluded a seven-day hearing and fined Suárez £40,000 fine and banned him for eight matches for racially abusing Evra.[112] Suárez had used the word "negrito" towards Evra meaning "little black man" in Spanish. The term is used in South America as a term of endearment and not an insult.[113]

On 23 October 2011, in a match between QPR and Chelsea, Anton Ferdinand alleged racial abuse by Chelsea captain, John Terry, claiming Terry called him a "****ing black ****" during the game; a claim denied by Terry.[114] On 1 November, the Metropolitan Police announced a formal investigation into the allegations.[115] In January 2012 Ferdinand received death threats and a bullet sent through the post.[116] On 1 February 2012 at Westminster Magistrates Court, Terry was accused of a racially-aggravated public order offence in relation to the game at Loftus Road on 23 October. He entered a not-guilty plea and stood trial on 9 July.[117] On 13 July, after a four-day trial, Terry was acquitted.[118] In July, following the court hearing Terry was charged by the Football Association with "using abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Ferdinand and which included a reference to colour and/or race contrary to FA Rule E3[2]". In September 2012, after a four day hearing, he was found guilty, banned for four games and fined £220,000.[119] Evidence in his defence at Terry's trial had been given by his team-mate, Ashley Cole. Anton Ferdinand's brother Rio later referred to Cole via Twitter as a "choc ice" meaning someone who is black on the outside but white on the inside.

On 29 May 2012 the BBC reported that Swindon Town had conceded, in a response to a solicitor's letter from Jonathan Tehoue, that manager Paolo Di Canio, a self-described fascist, had made an inappropriate remark to the player which Tehoue deemed to be racist.

Just a sampling...

As I said...I played the game for over 25 years in the states and with club players around Woodbridge and Ipswitch. Cuban players do it. Brazilian players do it. British players do it. American players do it. All? Of course not. A lot? You bet. Usually...its trash talk...a way to get someone off their game, get them thinking more about the player than the next play.

I played soccer for years and I never heard any player come anywhere close to what Incognito said and did to his own teammate. None of the examples you used are in any way comparable. I think things are often said in the heat of games that players later regret. That is not the case here.
 
He went over the line a bit, but not nearly (I suspect) to the extent you think he did.

People seem to keep trying to equate a locker room to a law firm boardroom.

Not at all, but you don't have to act like a COMPLETE ass either.
 
He went over the line a bit, but not nearly (I suspect) to the extent you think he did.

People seem to keep trying to equate a locker room to a law firm boardroom.

No, I'd just equate it to what minimal human conduct ought to be like. "It's just the locker room" is no longer an acceptable excuse for sub-human conduct.
 
Incognition acted far worse than a retard and the rest of your R.I.P.s, keep them coming..
He just validated all the bullying and hazing in high school just by the fact that local yokals are debating whether he shouldn't be punished..I suspect Jerry Jones needs a good offensive lineman .
Come on, the guy acted like a retard on the video. I can just imagine how he acted in the locker room, but probably like a total douche.
 
Of course I do understand that. To play football at the NFL level you cant be stupid either. The line calls and defense reads and pickups are insanely complicated. Just in case you don't think linemen have to be at least above average intelligence, here's a book you might want to peruse its called Amazon.com: Take Your Eye Off the Ball: How to Watch Football by Knowing Where to Look eBook: Pat Kirwan, David Seigerman, Pete Carroll, Bill Cowher: Books, I thought I knew quite a bit about football, this gave me more to flesh my knowledge out. From what I understand right now its a he said he said situation. Sounds like Martin got ridden pretty hard, and Ingconito was supposedly supposed to toughen the man up because the coaching staff thought the guy was timid. It also sounds like they were friends and had a falling out. Quite frankly this being the NFL and all these are grown ass men and what they do to each other is their business and between themselves. Its a violent sport loaded with type A personalities, there aint much you can do to change that. If Martin didn't like the way he was treated he had the option of leaving, which he took. Maybe he can get hooked up with another team. I doubt it but you never know.

I can't imagine why Martin would fall out with a guy who threatened to kill him, assault his mother, and participate in the gang rape of his sister. Guess he's just not the 'manly man' that Incognito is.

And I"it's a violent sport" is about the lamest excuse imaginable for this Neanderthal behavior.
 
I can't imagine why Martin would fall out with a guy who threatened to kill him, assault his mother, and participate in the gang rape of his sister. Guess he's just not the 'manly man' that Incognito is.

And I"it's a violent sport" is about the lamest excuse imaginable for this Neanderthal behavior.

Yeah, I would say that's a little more than being manly in the locker room. I think this guy is probably really arrogant and obviously a little out of control too.
 
He acted like a large, burly, manly-man - like they all are.

Like I said - you need to be a man to understand the locker room mentality.

Oh I understand it. I just don't believe that what happened to Martin or to Cam Cleland is acceptable under any 'mentality'.
 
If he doesn't like it, why put up with it? Martin could leave the Dolphins, no?
 
I played soccer for years and I never heard any player come anywhere close to what Incognito said and did to his own teammate. None of the examples you used are in any way comparable. I think things are often said in the heat of games that players later regret. That is not the case here.
Did you hear them using slang, cusses, a few "**** you's", etc? I played with Cubans...vile language. Colombians...vile and dirty play to boot. And please...dont give me that garbage. Things said in the heat of the game are only better concealed away from the game.

I am not and have not said any of it is excusable or wasnt over the top, only that it is fairly commonplace. Anyone out there doesnt think so...you simply havent a clue. Furthermore...it isnt going to change with a few rule changes. Look at the process of making it to the pros. A comp league standout will often get recruited to play for certain high schools. Quality high school players get recruited to play at college and some of the top tier players get special treatment. A job you dont have to show up at, classes...meh...dont worry about classes. Here...sign this lease. Boy, it sure is lucky you managed to save all that money raking leaves when you were a kid. Oh...and lets not forget the coaches along the way.

Richie Incognito is simply not all that different from a large number of professional athletes. This is all just faux outrage. Why...I NEVER! Can you just IMAGINE? Harumph haRUMPH HARUMPH!!!


Pulllleeeeeeeaaaassseeee....
 
Did you hear them using slang, cusses, a few "**** you's", etc? I played with Cubans...vile language. Colombians...vile and dirty play to boot. And please...dont give me that garbage. Things said in the heat of the game are only better concealed away from the game.

I am not and have not said any of it is excusable or wasnt over the top, only that it is fairly commonplace. Anyone out there doesnt think so...you simply havent a clue. Furthermore...it isnt going to change with a few rule changes. Look at the process of making it to the pros. A comp league standout will often get recruited to play for certain high schools. Quality high school players get recruited to play at college and some of the top tier players get special treatment. A job you dont have to show up at, classes...meh...dont worry about classes. Here...sign this lease. Boy, it sure is lucky you managed to save all that money raking leaves when you were a kid. Oh...and lets not forget the coaches along the way.

Richie Incognito is simply not all that different from a large number of professional athletes. This is all just faux outrage. Why...I NEVER! Can you just IMAGINE? Harumph haRUMPH HARUMPH!!!


Pulllleeeeeeeaaaassseeee....

Intimidating your teammates is no way to have a successful team. The guy is an idiot plain and simple.
 
Intimidating your teammates is no way to have a successful team. The guy is an idiot plain and simple.
Chris...all you have to do (if you are interested in anything more than the cause of anti-bullying) is look at the Miami Dolphins locker room and how they have responded to this whole situation. Incognito may indeed be a jerk. Funny though...his coaches went to HIM as a leader and asked him to toughen Martin up. His teammates have rallied around HIM, not Martin. Other players in the league have supported him as well.
 
Chris...all you have to do (if you are interested in anything more than the cause of anti-bullying) is look at the Miami Dolphins locker room and how they have responded to this whole situation. Incognito may indeed be a jerk. Funny though...his coaches went to HIM as a leader and asked him to toughen Martin up. His teammates have rallied around HIM, not Martin. Other players in the league have supported him as well.

There have been other complaints about this guy in the past.
 
If this was Incognito's first incident, I'd say fine him, punish the Coach and let it go. But this guy? All the time he's in trouble - been released from teams over his temper and everything else. Cut him loose. Playing for the NFL is not a right - it's a privilege, and one that he's abused.
 
If this was Incognito's first incident, I'd say fine him, punish the Coach and let it go. But this guy? All the time he's in trouble - been released from teams over his temper and everything else. Cut him loose. Playing for the NFL is not a right - it's a privilege, and one that he's abused.

His anger issues are completely offset by the fact that he is a proven leader (elected to such on the Dolphins by his peers) and a Pro Bowl caliber guard.

That's why I said if he was released today, he'd have a job within a week.
 
His anger issues are completely offset by the fact that he is a proven leader (elected to such on the Dolphins by his peers) and a Pro Bowl caliber guard.

That's why I said if he was released today, he'd have a job within a week.

yeah and probably released from his contract in two weeks! :lol:
 
All this bullying talk is laughable. If Martin didn't have such soft shoulders, we wouldn't have this issue today. I predict martin never plays football again.
 
I played soccer for years and I never heard any player come anywhere close to what Incognito said and did to his own teammate. None of the examples you used are in any way comparable. I think things are often said in the heat of games that players later regret. That is not the case here.

Soccer is a more feminine sport, football is a different animal.
 
All this bullying talk is laughable. If Martin didn't have such soft shoulders, we wouldn't have this issue today. I predict martin never plays football again.

I think he will - but I'm doubting that it's with Miami. I believe that he was a mid-1st round selection a couple years ago, so that's not a scrub draft spot.
 
I think he will - but I'm doubting that it's with Miami. I believe that he was a mid-1st round selection a couple years ago, so that's not a scrub draft spot.

Yeah but now everyone knows how soft he is. It's like blood in the water.
 
Yeah but now everyone knows how soft he is. It's like blood in the water.

I think someone that's really hurting for a tackle would take a chance on him, but he'd probably be one of the worst paid tackles out there, and probably play RT to protect against a 2nd rusher and not the star DE.

He's gonna need to re-earn his stripes.
 
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