View Poll Results: What should happen to Incognito of the Miami Dolphins?

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  • He should lose his job and be criminally charged

    5 12.20%
  • Incognito, the coach, and ownership should be punished by the league

    10 24.39%
  • Nothing should happen, this is the NFL

    11 26.83%
  • IF Martin had been tough, we would have never heard about this

    8 19.51%
  • Incognito fined, suspended, and the NFL investigated

    8 19.51%
  • I hate sports and could care less

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    The Incognito story has gone from a story about Bullying to the plot from "A Few Good Men". What do you think should happen to Incognito and/or possibly the staff and ownership?

    Incognito should, at the least, be fined and suspended. However, given his history of crossing the line, I wouldn't mind if he was banned - formally or informally - from the league as a whole. He just seems like bad news.

    As for the coach, ownership, et al., I would need to know more about their role in this situation. My guess is that they created or allowed a culture where this sort of nonsense was allowed to happen. If that's the case, they need a punishment that will be effective as a deterrent for the heads of every other team.

    I don't buy into the "oh it's just football" and "Martin needs to just man up" arguments. Yes, you need to be physically and mentally tough to play football and my guess is that since Martin made it that far, he is probably pretty tough. It must have just gone too far for him. I know the racial slur and the threat were too far for me. The fact that he didn't go to any of his coaches or other team leadership makes me think the treatment against him was endorsed by them so I don't blame him for leaving.

    I think in sports like football, people don't often draw the line between being tough and being abusive. You don't have to be the latter to be the former. Incognito doesn't seem to have learned the difference.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Great, now even football bows to the nannies. How long before they require them to play with an imaginary ball and stop keeping score? If you can't stand the jock itch, stay out of the locker room. Martin needs to restrict his football play to video games at his mother's house.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    This is hilarious. Just go and watch the video of Tony Dorsett today and tell us how much people are over-emphasizing the violence of football.
    Saw it. Of course football is violent. Everybody who plays knows this and the effects of some of it will last a life time. The longer term effects of head injuries are a relatively recent discovery. They need to be addressed, and they will be. The rest is just hype. Many, many sports offer the prospect of such injuries, and more.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    At this point does anyone really have enough facts at this time to decide any sort of punishment?

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Great, now even football bows to the nannies. How long before they require them to play with an imaginary ball and stop keeping score? If you can't stand the jock itch, stay out of the locker room. Martin needs to restrict his football play to video games at his mother's house.
    I wouldn't go that far. Martin may be emo, but Incognito has had problems with every team he's played or almost played for.

    Yes, "manly" hazing goes on in locker rooms everywhere and pranks too. That's what I'd call socking rookies with an obscenely expensive supper bill. And tweeting that you're going to defecate in somebody's mouth is just childish and pathetic. Posting a pic of Martin in a go-kart and calling him a "big weirdo"? Whatever.

    But if it's true that Incognito threatened Martin's family, that's not funny. That's not "hazing."

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    I'm surprised that so many people take this incident so seriously and are trying to make it a larger societal issue and not just nonsense that goes on when men play games. If you want to treat this the same as you would two people in normal walks of life, then I hope you're prepared to charge pretty much everyone except place kickers with assault and battery because that's basically what all football players do every Sunday and what makes it the most lucrative sport in North America if not the world.

    Reminds me of idiot prosecutors who in the past charged hockey players with assault because of stick swinging incidents or bench clearing brawls. It's a game folks - get over it.
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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm surprised that so many people take this incident so seriously and are trying to make it a larger societal issue and not just nonsense that goes on when men play games. If you want to treat this the same as you would two people in normal walks of life, then I hope you're prepared to charge pretty much everyone except place kickers with assault and battery because that's basically what all football players do every Sunday and what makes it the most lucrative sport in North America if not the world.

    Reminds me of idiot prosecutors who in the past charged hockey players with assault because of stick swinging incidents or bench clearing brawls. It's a game folks - get over it.
    Well, let's not make a societal issue out of it then. What I've thought about a lot is the business decision. Incognito is talented and therefore valuable...and yet he's ended up leaving every team for which he's played. He's brought unpleasant media attention to his team. Maybe he will be immediately hired by another team. But would you hire him?

    What galls me is that he's not the only Dolphin who was in on this. I'm looking forward to his teammates speaking up in his defense and acknowledging their roles. Martin wasn't a good fit, and maybe they wanted to get rid of him. Saying so would be "refreshing," wouldn't it? Not that it will happen, but wouldn't it?

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm surprised that so many people take this incident so seriously and are trying to make it a larger societal issue and not just nonsense that goes on when men play games.
    This is the attitude that sustains crap like this. "When men play games." Give me a break. Racism and threats like Incognito is accused of aren't just a part of "men playing games". In fact, his history has shown that his behavior stands out as over the top. I think it was the Colts that put him on their "No" list because of his "bad character."

    Those are very low standards that you have set for men.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Well, let's not make a societal issue out of it then. What I've thought about a lot is the business decision. Incognito is talented and therefore valuable...and yet he's ended up leaving every team for which he's played. He's brought unpleasant media attention to his team. Maybe he will be immediately hired by another team. But would you hire him?

    What galls me is that he's not the only Dolphin who was in on this. I'm looking forward to his teammates speaking up in his defense and acknowledging their roles. Martin wasn't a good fit, and maybe they wanted to get rid of him. Saying so would be "refreshing," wouldn't it? Not that it will happen, but wouldn't it?
    There have been several of his teammates speaking up for him. Everything that has been said is that he has been a positive influence on the team and locker room and a great teammate.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Well, let's not make a societal issue out of it then. What I've thought about a lot is the business decision. Incognito is talented and therefore valuable...and yet he's ended up leaving every team for which he's played. He's brought unpleasant media attention to his team. Maybe he will be immediately hired by another team. But would you hire him?

    What galls me is that he's not the only Dolphin who was in on this. I'm looking forward to his teammates speaking up in his defense and acknowledging their roles. Martin wasn't a good fit, and maybe they wanted to get rid of him. Saying so would be "refreshing," wouldn't it? Not that it will happen, but wouldn't it?
    I don't disagree - it is a business decision - and the league, if they choose, can deal with it too from a public relations perspective - but this business about lawsuits and perhaps criminal/human rights charges, etc., is nonsense. I am adamantly opposed to actions within a game, which is essentially entertainment, being treated as if it has real life dynamics. Maybe prosecutors could start charging comedians next and we can go back to the era of Lenny Bruce being jailed, or maybe we can just chill.
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