View Poll Results: What should happen to Incognito of the Miami Dolphins?

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  • He should lose his job and be criminally charged

    5 12.20%
  • Incognito, the coach, and ownership should be punished by the league

    10 24.39%
  • Nothing should happen, this is the NFL

    11 26.83%
  • IF Martin had been tough, we would have never heard about this

    8 19.51%
  • Incognito fined, suspended, and the NFL investigated

    8 19.51%
  • I hate sports and could care less

    5 12.20%
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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Jason Whitlock completely disagrees with you. Since it wasnt CONSERVATIVES that deemed him an honorary black man but rather his black TEAMMATES, Whitlock seems to blame Black America and Black Culture that would embrace someone like Incognito and trash someone like Martin who is intelligent, well spoken, and comes from a good family.
    So wait, you're still using him being labelled as an honorary black even though that obviously means - in this context - that he's a thug, to back your point? Good stuff. Tell me how you're rooting for black America to better itself again.
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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So wait, you're still using him being labelled as an honorary black even though that obviously means - in this context - that he's a thug, to back your point? Good stuff. Tell me how you're rooting for black America to better itself again.
    I love black people. Without black Americans, we'd suck at the Olympics.

    Well...Summer Olympics anyway. Winter Olympics, we'd be fine.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I read the transcripts of the audiotape...did you (and BTW...so did everyone else in the locker room. It had been discussed as a joke by Martin and numerous players)? Did that REALLY sound like a death threat? Because...MOST death threats probably dont contain the line "you are a still a rookie to me...I'll kill you." So...lets be VERY clear, and just so I know...do YOU believe Richie Incognito was threatening to and intended to actually kill Martin? That should be a simple enough question to answer.

    Is he 'criminally liable'? If Martin files a complaint then yes...he would be on record as making what amounts to a 'terrorist threat' and there would be grounds for a criminal complaint. Now...your turn. DO you honestly believe that Richie Incognito was planning on killing Martin?
    You're making too many circles to try and avoid the box you made for yourself. Whether he "intends to" or not has no bearing on whether he's criminally liable for uttering death threats. Considering the fact that he's threatened violence against quite a few people. I wouldn't put it past a thug like him to actually make good on some of his threats. Now, you can blame "football culture" all you want for it. **** it, it's supposed to be a rough sport - but there is a line between locker room activity and criminal behavior. Incognito clearly crossed it and if the Dolphin's coaching pushed him to do it, then I hope Martin sues the absolute living **** out the franchise.
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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    listen to a radio station that plays and rap and you will hear more slurs that were told in this story
    Wow, what a lazy, nonsensical, red herring of a response. Tip: Don't start a thread if you don't want to engage people.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Hockey? Duh. Soccer. Basketball. Basically any sport were both teams are on the field at the same time interacting. You ever actually watch professional basketball? It can get violent, those boys don't play nice.
    Yeah, normally it isn't with their own teammate, however. I know football players as a rule aren't the brightest bulbs in the chandelier, but ruining the life of a guy who is on your side is particularly dumb. Of course, he's educated and that probably counts against him.

    You do understand this was their teammate, right?
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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're making too many circles to try and avoid the box you made for yourself. Whether he "intends to" or not has no bearing on whether he's criminally liable for uttering death threats. Considering the fact that he's threatened violence against quite a few people. I wouldn't put it past a thug like him to actually make good on some of his threats. Now, you can blame "football culture" all you want for it. **** it, it's supposed to be a rough sport - but there is a line between locker room activity and criminal behavior. Incognito clearly crossed it and if the Dolphin's coaching pushed him to do it, then I hope Martin sues the absolute living **** out the franchise.
    The last time I looked, threatening to kill somebody was a crime. Of course, football players have different rules that the rest of society, so maybe I'm wrong.
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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And WHY if he was such a monster, would his coaches specifically go to him and ask him to "toughen up" Martin?
    They ordered a code red. We can't handle the truth.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Another guy who obviously needs to take 'manly man' lessons from the Miami Douchebag and some of his supporters on this forum. Clearly he's just not manly enough.

    For Cam Cleeland, hazing incident altered his NFL career — and life - latimes.com

    http://q.usatoday.com/2013/11/08/cam...ognito-hazing/
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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont think you will find anyone claiming he was "Saint Richie".
    But he's a 'manly man', right?
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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    But he's a 'manly man', right?
    No...He's a brute. He's an offensive lineman that bangs his body into other brutes on a daily basis for good money and for the entertainment of fans everywhere. He is just what he is.

    Tell me...do you think this sort of stuff doesnt go on on soccer pitches around the globe? Do you think they dont use racist names, slurs, and attack every essence of who you are? This isnt ****ing kindergarten. They arent saints and they arent monsters. They are grown ass men playing a brutal sport.

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