View Poll Results: What should happen to Incognito of the Miami Dolphins?

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  • He should lose his job and be criminally charged

    5 12.20%
  • Incognito, the coach, and ownership should be punished by the league

    10 24.39%
  • Nothing should happen, this is the NFL

    11 26.83%
  • IF Martin had been tough, we would have never heard about this

    8 19.51%
  • Incognito fined, suspended, and the NFL investigated

    8 19.51%
  • I hate sports and could care less

    5 12.20%
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Thread: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    New information might suggest that Richie Incognito has had issues beyond the matter concerning Jonathan Martin.

    From ESPN:

    Recently suspended offensive lineman Richie Incognito was investigated last year for harassing a volunteer at the Miami Dolphins' annual golf tournament by allegedly molesting her with a golf club, according to Aventura, Fla., police.

    Police report filed against Richie Incognito for alleged molestation in 2012, but no charges - ESPN

    If this report is accurate and the incident in question did occur (regardless of whether it rose to the level where a criminal act was committed), this would suggest that Incognito has a problem and his conduct warrants a potentially significant response from the NFL.
    I dont think you will find anyone claiming he was "Saint Richie".

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Miami Dolphins players support Richie Incognito - ESPN

    Funny...the people that are there...that see it day to day...their teammates...they all have an 'opinion'...

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont think you will find anyone claiming he was "Saint Richie".
    I'm not suggesting that. But if the Martin issue is not an isolated case, it suggests that Incognito is a problem and should be dealt with by the League.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I'm not suggesting that. But if the Martin issue is not an isolated case, it suggests that Incognito is a problem and should be dealt with by the League.
    I will bet money that the reason why there isnt a lot of urgency to act on this is the same reason the league approached the 'bounty' situation in New Orleans.

    The PLAYERS across the board, past and present...have pretty much spoken clearly on this whole thing. It is a part of the culture and it always has been.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Miami Dolphins players support Richie Incognito - ESPN

    Funny...the people that are there...that see it day to day...their teammates...they all have an 'opinion'...
    Of course, one could be dealing with group cohesion dynamics/groupthink that places loyalty to an embattled teammate ahead of objective considerations. Without more information, one can't really be sure.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I will bet money that the reason why there isnt a lot of urgency to act on this is the same reason the league approached the 'bounty' situation in New Orleans.

    The PLAYERS across the board, past and present...have pretty much spoken clearly on this whole thing. It is a part of the culture and it always has been.
    I don't doubt that "hazing" of players is part of a broader culture, but this issue may go beyond that. Additional incidents such as the possible one cited by ESPN would argue that the hazing angle merely masked a larger behavioral/conduct problem on the part of Incognito. The NFL will need to look at all the relevant evidence and if there is a larger problem should deal with it.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Of course, one could be dealing with group cohesion dynamics/groupthink that places loyalty to an embattled teammate ahead of objective considerations. Without more information, one can't really be sure.
    I said in a different thread...the thing that is laughable about all of this is that so many people that are supposedly connected to the NFL (sportwriters etc) are just SHOCKED...OUTRAGED...Jason Whitlock is turning this into an MLK civil rights issue. They are the same people that were in and around baseball for the 15 years prior to the revelations on steroids who SAW the players juicing, knew about it, then, when it became public knowledge were...just...SHOCKED! Outraged I tells ya!

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I don't doubt that "hazing" of players is part of a broader culture, but this issue may go beyond that. Additional incidents such as the possible one cited by ESPN would argue that the hazing angle merely masked a larger behavioral/conduct problem on the part of Incognito. The NFL will need to look at all the relevant evidence and if there is a larger problem should deal with it.
    As fellow teammates stated...IF Incognito was deemed this evil racist monster, WHY did he and Martin hang out together all the time away from football? Why was Incognito the first to have his back on the field? And WHY if he was such a monster, would his coaches specifically go to him and ask him to "toughen up" Martin?

    As much as Incognito is described as a 'cancer', his fellow teammates sure have responded on his behalf. One would think he would be an easy candidate for the rear wheels of the bus.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    An "honorary black man" is supposedly one who makes death threats and terrorizes people. Good stuff conservatives. Glad to see you guys in support of criminal thuggery.
    Jason Whitlock completely disagrees with you. Since it wasnt CONSERVATIVES that deemed him an honorary black man but rather his black TEAMMATES, Whitlock seems to blame Black America and Black Culture that would embrace someone like Incognito and trash someone like Martin who is intelligent, well spoken, and comes from a good family.
    Last edited by VanceMack; 11-08-13 at 12:49 PM.

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    Re: Incognito- what should the punishment be?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    As fellow teammates stated...IF Incognito was deemed this evil racist monster, WHY did he and Martin hang out together all the time away from football? Why was Incognito the first to have his back on the field? And WHY if he was such a monster, would his coaches specifically go to him and ask him to "toughen up" Martin?

    As much as Incognito is described as a 'cancer', his fellow teammates sure have responded on his behalf. One would think he would be an easy candidate for the rear wheels of the bus.
    I'm reaching no conclusions at this time. I am suggesting that one needs to wait for the evidence to come out. If the ESPN story is right, there would be reason for the NFL to deal with an issue that extends beyond the matter with Martin. The NFL will need to examine the evidence, its credibility, and then act based on the nature of the evidence.

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