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Thread: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

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    Re: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Massive corporate subsidies are.
    Not always. There is a lot of protectionism, price fixing through subsidies, etc that is sponsored by the labor faction of the left. Farm Subsidies were started by the left for example. Of course, that was before the liberals went on a anti-religion binge and drove most of the rural/southern communities from the Dems over to the Reps.
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    Re: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    America has a bronze age economy in an iron age world. Our economic prowress simply won't survive. It is not a matter of if but when.
    Usually it can vary with one administration making a correction in the country's politics and economics but if Obamacare makes it all the way through than a turnaround may prove impossible. There is no Ronald Reagan on the horizon yet and, although the attack on any Republican candidates and their families will be merciless, sensible people actually have to get out and vote in the next election to help maintain the future of the country.

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    Re: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's not coming down to subsidies. It's going to come down to socialized medicine in the guise of "insurance".

    Subsidies would be if private sector policies were considered "legal" under the new doctrine. We're seeing that this won't be the case.
    During the Cold War it was argued that although those who were forced to live under communism had to give up a few freedoms at least they were secure under government programs. Ben Franklin claimed that "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both". That lesson has to be repeated regularly over the centuries and still people don't get it.

    Call it an "Irony Curtain" that has crossed over the land.

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    Re: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

    Hm. In practice or in discussion?

    In practice, it is center-ish. Some issues very left, some issues very right, but increasingly moving right, because the discussion is extremely right.

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    Re: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Hm. In practice or in discussion?

    In practice, it is center-ish. Some issues very left, some issues very right, but increasingly moving right, because the discussion is extremely right.
    The terms 'left' and 'right' are handy sometimes but not to define a country with multiple issues happening at the same time, and the definitions varying from city to city and state to state.

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    Re: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

    I don't quite understand the question. "Right" or "left" of what? Some universal standard of "center" made of platinum and kept under guard at the International Bureau of Weights and Measures in Paris?

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    Re: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Massive corporate subsidies are.



    Correct.

    And that's what's been going on in the USA for quite a while.

    Bailing out firms that are 'too big too fail' was just another subsidy that every taxpayer, rich or poor, will eventually pay for.

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    Re: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    America has a bronze age economy in an iron age world. Our economic prowress simply won't survive. It is not a matter of if but when
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    Maybe, maybe not. We'll have to wait and see.

    Right now the USA still leads the world in many areas.

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    Re: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Correct.

    And that's what's been going on in the USA for quite a while.

    Bailing out firms that are 'too big too fail' was just another subsidy that every taxpayer, rich or poor, will eventually pay for.
    That "too big to fail" theory applies , more than anything, to the United States. Many seem to feel they can give out free things to half the country, maintain a strong military, give everyone cheaper and better health care and maintain a growing debt of $17,000.000.000.000. This is so obscenely foolish that I cannot see any country getting out of this mess, especially with voters whose thoughts don't go beyond food stamps and Obamaphones.

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    Re: The Domestic Politics of United States is?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. We'll have to wait and see.

    Right now the USA still leads the world in many areas.
    You won't have to wait too long unless Americans get their act together and elect someone based on experience and honesty rather than on a 19th century failed ideology.. Those areas of the world it still leads are becoming fewer with jobs, and power, mostly growing in the bureaucracies. Try getting rid of them!

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