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Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

Would You Support Militarizing The Mexican Border?

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 45.6%

  • Some Measures

    Votes: 15 13.2%

  • No

    Votes: 47 41.2%
  • Total voters
    114
azgreg said:
We would have to use the Mexicans to build it and they would just put in hidden doors, so what good would it do.
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Well, ate least the concrete and gravel industries will flourish. Then Obama can tax them. :lol:
 
No reason for the expensive military option.

Just build a wall with 250,000 volts on top. Cheap and it lasts forever.
 
274ina said:
No reason for the expensive military option.

Just build a wall with 250,000 volts on top. Cheap and it lasts forever.
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and, once the tunnels are completed, we have business as usual.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
So you view a wall as militaristic? Yes, militarizing the border was the original topic of the thread but you brought up the Berlin Wall.
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The Berlin wall was militarized...
 
Tunnel detection crews, land mines, and guard towers with shoot to kill orders to stop anyone who attempts to violate our countries sovereignty. Before you call me stasi and compare my ideas to the Iron Curtain I will point out the difference. The guards on the iron curtain were attempting to keep people in. We would be attempting keep people who ignore our laws out.
 
Phil_Osophy said:
I'd support militarizing it. Only if we pull the troops from overseas.
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I still don't get how we have a legitimate case of national defense that we could use our military for, the Mexican border, and we don't do it. Yet, politicians will send us to some faraway country to guard THEIR borders. Just makes no sense to me. The Mexican border IS a legit national defense concern. If that is not a case of national defense, what is?
The only bad part is that it would legitimately take at least a Regiment to secure it. We would need to set up FOBs (forward operating bases), COPs (Company Outposts), and PB (patrol bases) all along the border. The supply train to do this would be substantial. However, we could contract that out to civilians. AMERICAN civilians lol. It would cost some money, but that investment is worth more than the one's we've made in Afghan and Iraq IMO.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
So it is militarized...
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Not any more, they took it down. It was in all the newspapers.

Also, it was only militarized on one side--the side they were keeping people in, not on the side were they were welcomed. Clearly that distinction escapes you. End of discussion.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Not any more, they took it down. It was in all the newspapers.

Also, it was only militarized on one side--the side they were keeping people in, not on the side were they were welcomed. Clearly that distinction escapes you. End of discussion.
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So its only acceptable to have a militarized border when we are keeping people out of a countrY?
 
Drug cartels, violence, and illegal immigrants flood our borders. It's common sense to militarize it in my opinion, I would support such a thing.
 
i think this is a great idea, it could easily solve our illegal immigration. . But we would need to make it so that the wall was a little ways back from the actual border, because in order to do anything without causing an international problem, this military could only take action once they were on our side illegally. But it would have to be new and already home soldiers, we have to many treaty's with other country's who use our military to police their country's, especially the navy
 
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Ah, just mine the border. It's cost effective, brutal beyond imagination, and it doesn't say you can't come in. You can, if you feel lucky.
 
JJB3333 said:
i think this is a great idea, it could easily solve our illegal immigration. . But we would need to make it so that the wall was a little ways back from the actual border, because in order to do anything without causing an international problem, this military could only take action once they were on our side illegally. But it would have to be new and already home soldiers, we have to many treaty's with other country's who use our military to police their country's, especially the navy
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Well if your going to do that you can adopt the Libyan border control method, use artillery.
 
humbolt said:
Ah, just mine the border. It's cost effective, brutal beyond imagination, and it doesn't say you can't come in. You can, if you feel lucky.
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It is also very illegal and very unethical.
 
trfjr said:
its called a work visa have them legally enter
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Even if there was a way to do it, most of the border crossers couldn't qualify or would even bother with the process.
 
Dittohead not! said:
No, that's not necessary.
Just fine anyone who hires illegals, streamline legal immigration, and then legalize drugs to stop the violence along the border. Do that, and the southern border will be as peaceful as the northern one.
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Do you think everybody crossing the border come to work?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
It's not illegal unless you get caught. The Canadian border is too huge to enforce. Mexicans are taking luxurious vacations to Canada and then sneaking across the border and into North Dakota. Nobody is even noticing.
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A visa to go to Canada from Mexico is very easy to get. That could be happening.
 
azgreg said:
We would have to use the Mexicans to build it and they would just put in hidden doors, so what good would it do.
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They would build tunnels too.
 
Dittohead not! said:
No, not everyone. Most of them do, however, which is why illegal immigration is allowed to continue.
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I wouldn't say most.

A lot of them are families of those that are already in the US.

It is easy to get into Mexico from many different ways from many dangerous countries, and then they cross into the US from the southern border.

That reason alone is why the border should be better regulated.
 
Mason66 said:
I wouldn't say most.

A lot of them are families of those that are already in the US.

It is easy to get into Mexico from many different ways from many dangerous countries, and then they cross into the US from the southern border.

That reason alone is why the border should be better regulated.
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Most of the illegal immigrants are simply trying to get a better life, bring families together, and earn a little money.
But, then, there are those others, some of them from what you call "dangerous" countries, others affiliated with gangs and cartels.

which is why we should regulate the southern border and make sure that the dangerous ones don't get here, as well as make it a bit easier on the ones who do just want to come and work, and for whom there actually is work.

If we had a functional government, that's what we would do, no doubt.
 
Carjosse said:
Why does no one ever propose this? Replace Homeland Security (or whoever guards the Southern border) and ICE with the National Guard or the Army; all new recruits would be required to protect the border for a period of time. Fortify and secure the border and no one would even think of crossing because even if they get over that wall they will have guns pointing at them from the other side. It worked well for Austria until they joined the Schengen area. I'm not just talking about building a taller wall but complete militarization of the border. It solves your illegal immigration issue for sure and will greatly reduce trafficking of all kinds across the border. What do you Americans think especially those who live near the border?
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I don't think its necessary. It come become necessary if the drug cartel activities begin to seriously affect US border towns.

I think a better solution would be to take a "mow your neighbor's lawn" approach. At times people end up with a neighbor who has abandoned their home or acts like it and neglects things. The neglected property ends up devaluing other property in the area. Although its a pain, often the wise choice in such cases is to spend a hour every couple of weeks mowing the neglected property's lawn.

I think we need a comprehensive Mexico policy that has as its goal working with Mexico to bring it into the G8 and help make it more "Americanized" for lack of a better word and less third world. Due to the relative proximity to the states, I think it would include business initiatives that created jobs for both Mexicans as well as Americans willing to relocate to Mexico for work. I think we need to insist English language and American history be taught in every grade level of Mexican primary and secondary education. I also think English language American radio and TV should be broadcast in every large and medium city in Mexico under a cultural exchange program. Place select American radio and TV stations in a lottery pool to retransmit their signals into a Mexican city for 5 years. Maybe 2 US radio and TV stations into a sister Mexican city. Then when their people relocate here, and obviously many do, the whole population speaks English, has some knowledge US history and can more easily adapt to American culture.

In time possibly all sides agree to incorporate Mexico into the US, first making their states US territories.
 
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