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    Re: Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    we will still need border control

    even if we fix the visa/immigration issues, and more people get to come legally....

    there will need to be limits set.....and it still wont be enough for some

    so people will still try and cross illegally......

    no one wants to wait for anything anymore.....

    it is a "give it to me now generation......"

    we cant fix the world and all of the problems it has.....

    hell, we cant even feed, house, and clothe the ones here already

    so yes....we will need border control , and militarization of the border
    None of that requires militarization of the border. In fact, money used to militarize the border could instead be used to "feed, house, and clothe the people already here."
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    Re: Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

    What a horrifically bad idea, we might as well go back to the moat idea filled with gators inside and mines on each shore.

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    Re: Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Why does no one ever propose this? Replace Homeland Security (or whoever guards the Southern border) and ICE with the National Guard or the Army; all new recruits would be required to protect the border for a period of time. Fortify and secure the border and no one would even think of crossing because even if they get over that wall they will have guns pointing at them from the other side. It worked well for Austria until they joined the Schengen area. I'm not just talking about building a taller wall but complete militarization of the border. It solves your illegal immigration issue for sure and will greatly reduce trafficking of all kinds across the border. What do you Americans think especially those who live near the border?
    A militarized border has no place in a free country. Period. End of story. Strong no from me.
    Last edited by TeleKat; 11-12-14 at 07:54 PM.

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    Re: Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    That is mostly a tourist area.

    If you go to the capital, the population is required to buy a new car every three years.

    When your car gets to be three years old, they allow you to drive it only 6 days a week.

    If you want to get to work every day, you have to have a new car every three years.

    There are more new cars sold in the capital, which is D.F., that babies are born.

    Anybody that has been to any of Mexico's big cities knows Mexico is not a third world country.
    It was my first time there and I was pretty surprised. As an FYI, we drove 20 minutes into the county away from the touristy areas, resorts and all where the regular people live. Seeing the neighborhoods, shopping centers, kids playing baseball at the park, etc. is what really surprised me.
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    Re: Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    None of that requires militarization of the border. In fact, money used to militarize the border could instead be used to "feed, house, and clothe the people already here."
    That would result in the creation of mass dependency and an increase influx of immigrants from abroad.

    You can have an open borders immigration policy. And you can have a generous social safety net. But you cannot have both.




    More realistically, we just spent the last decade or so painfully learning a lot of counterinsurgency lessons really well. Why don't we employ them south of the border against the Narco's?

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    Re: Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    A militarized border has no place in a free country. Period. End of story. Strong no from me.
    Ah. So it is your opinion that South Korea would be freer if they were to allow North Korea to dominate them? Western Germany would have been freer under the Soviets. If India were to just allow China and Pakistan to carve up sections of it's territory - think of all the freedom their citizens could have trading democracy for sclerotic semi-regular military coups and corporatist autocratic socialist tyrants!

    Yeah. That makes sense.

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    Re: Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    It was my first time there and I was pretty surprised. As an FYI, we drove 20 minutes into the county away from the touristy areas, resorts and all where the regular people live. Seeing the neighborhoods, shopping centers, kids playing baseball at the park, etc. is what really surprised me.
    That is not the Mexico you see in the news or in any movie or on TV.

    They only show a man in a huge sombrero sitting on his porch taking a nap, and dirt streets.

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    Re: Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Ah. So it is your opinion that South Korea would be freer if they were to allow North Korea to dominate them? Western Germany would have been freer under the Soviets. If India were to just allow China and Pakistan to carve up sections of it's territory - think of all the freedom their citizens could have trading democracy for sclerotic semi-regular military coups and corporatist autocratic socialist tyrants!

    Yeah. That makes sense.

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    Re: Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
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    Fallacy Identification Fail. You stated:

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat
    A militarized border has no place in a free country. Period. End of story.
    Examples of where militarized borders have, in fact, a very important place in free countries (ie: helping them to maintain that status) are rather germane to that claim Even if presented sarcastically

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    Re: Would You Support Militarizing The Border With Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Be tricky; not sure exactly how Posse Comitatus might apply.



    Might get messy too. Military is for killing people and breaking stuff.
    So? Whats the problem?

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