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  • Did Obama purposely mislead people about keeping your insurance?

    40 71.43%
  • Was it an honest misstatement?

    3 5.36%
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    10 17.86%
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    Keeping Insurance: Did Obama Purposely Mislead

    Obama denies videotaped "you can keep it" promises | The Daily Caller

    In this article Obama is trying to say more was implied with the healthcare reform and that what he really said was something else.
    Is this being disingenuous and back peddling, reasonable explanation or simply dishonest?
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    Re: Keeping Insurance: Did Obama Purposely Mislead

    I'm not the thought police. If you're wrong you're wrong. We can't trust what he says even if it was an honest mistake.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Keeping Insurance: Did Obama Purposely Mislead

    One thing the President is not is stupid. He would have had a much harder getting the public support that he did if the full implications of the program were recognized earlier. Given that and the fact that he said a number of times I have a hard time seeing it as anything other than intentionally misleading.

    Par for the course for a politician.
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    Re: Keeping Insurance: Did Obama Purposely Mislead

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    One thing the President is not is stupid. He would have had a much harder getting the public support that he did if the full implications of the program were recognized earlier. Given that and the fact that he said a number of times I have a hard time seeing it as anything other than intentionally misleading.

    Par for the course for a politician.
    if the media would have done their job and would have investigated the rights claims that have all came to fruition the law wouldn't have passed

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    Re: Keeping Insurance: Did Obama Purposely Mislead

    He lied. Period.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Keeping Insurance: Did Obama Purposely Mislead

    Wow, poll results don't look good for him so far. I'm not sure he knows much about the details of things because there's so much a President has to hear about on a daily basis. But it does seem unrealistic that he didn't know about the insurance mandates and new regulations/guidelines being enforced.

    He obviously didn't know what a disaster the website was or he would've had it fixed beforehand. I'm not sure what's worse being uninformed or intentionally misleading. I doubt anyone who doesn't want to sign up will do it with only a $95 fine, until 2015 when it goes up to $325. But losing a plan that cost less, even if it's less coverage doesn't sound fair.
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    Re: Keeping Insurance: Did Obama Purposely Mislead

    I think it was probably entirely purposeful. Otherwise, he would have had a huge problem with trying to sell us a bad bill of goods.
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    Re: Keeping Insurance: Did Obama Purposely Mislead

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I think it was probably entirely purposeful. Otherwise, he would have had a huge problem with trying to sell us a bad bill of goods.
    But the fall out from such a blatant misstatement is worse than a better crafted form of misleading information. I would think he could've definitely come up with a slicker lie being a consummate politician. It's entirely possible after seeing how dumb the website turned out that he made a misinformed comment or mistake. Though the longer he takes to own up to it the more deceptive it appears.
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    Re: Keeping Insurance: Did Obama Purposely Mislead

    68% will lose their coverage. Millions and millions and millions won't get a replacement. Those who do will pay much more for less.

    Expert: 129 million will not be able to keep insurance plan | The Daily Caller

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    Re: Keeping Insurance: Did Obama Purposely Mislead

    The structure of the ACA is such that it will make a profitable position
    by the insurance companies untenable.
    The insurance companies are not dummies, and so will rearrange their
    strategy to make a profit in other ways. (such as administrating the ACA)
    In one of the early versions of the Senate Bill, Private Health Insurance
    was described as being given a 5 year GRACE period, during which
    they could not increase premiums or decrease benefits.
    The goal has always been a single payer public insurance.
    Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System - Forbes

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