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    What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/06/us...g.html?hp&_r=0

    WASHINGTON — Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, who in recent weeks has had to explain a series of plagiarism charges, said in an interview Tuesday that he was being held to an unfair standard, but that there would be an office “restructuring” to prevent future occurrences.

    Sitting in a conference room in his Senate office complex, Mr. Paul, drawn and clearly shaken by the plagiarism charges, offered a mix of contrition and defiance. He said that he was not certain whether it would affect his prospects should he decide to run for president in 2016 — he said he would happily return to his Kentucky doctor’s practice — and he asserted that was being unfairly targeted.
    I can't decide if this is silly or pathetic, but at the very least it's embarrassing for a grown-ass man. In school plagiarism can be grounds for expulsion. What should it be for real adults in the real world?
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Sued by the original author and if it's copyrighted, well, up to 5 years i think is the law. Since he's a lawmaker, that would only be fitting.

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    While I'm DEFINITELY not a Rand Paul fan, this is much ado about nothing. So what? Borrowing a few sentences? This isn't a novel for sale, it's a speech or whatever.

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/06/us...g.html?hp&_r=0



    I can't decide if this is silly or pathetic, but at the very least it's embarrassing for a grown-ass man. In school plagiarism can be grounds for expulsion. What should it be for real adults in the real world?
    Whatever punishment you might think appropriate, remember that Liberals plagiarize Marx, Stalin, Hitler and others all the time.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/06/us...g.html?hp&_r=0



    I can't decide if this is silly or pathetic, but at the very least it's embarrassing for a grown-ass man. In school plagiarism can be grounds for expulsion. What should it be for real adults in the real world?
    Shame is enough punishment unless someone financially benefits from that plagiarism, then suing is appropriate similar to patent law.

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Whatever punishment you might think appropriate, remember that Liberals plagiarize Marx,
    .... just so you know, Marx is basically the founding author of modern capitalist economical terms. Terms such as dividends, surplus value, division of labor etc. - all terms used in modern capitalist lingo - were all defined by him. Keynes and Smith were storybooks in comparison to Das Kapital. So in essence, every time you talk about how capitalism works, you're plagiarizing Marx.


    Stalin, Hitler and others all the time.
    Give us an example?
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    That completely depends on the situation, in the Netherlands a professor was found to have plagiarized himself on his doctorate, in such a case I think he has to have his doctorate re-evaluated and if without the plagiarized text it would not have been enough to get him his doctorate, that doctorate has to be stripped of him. Without that doctorate he would have to be fired from his job teaching as a professor and should be sued for profiting from plagiarism (his professors wages).

    For a politician public ridicule normally would suffice because they make an almighty idiot of themselves if they do something as idiotic as plagiarism and all the bad press and ridicule is their own fault and they should not be whining about their fair comeuppance. If he has a political speech writer than idiot should be suspended for bringing his boss in hot water and publicly apologizing for that blunder.

    If someone has profited financially from their plagiarism by plagiarizing music, text/books or ideas they need to be stripped from profits and then face public ridicule for their stupid actions. This normally will have to be through lawsuits.

    In the case of Paul Rand nothing should happen, he did not benefit financially from using the text from the Week magazine or from using the wikipedia comments. He just made an all mighty jackass of himself and that seems to be sufficient punishment for his small plagiarizing transgression.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Whatever punishment you might think appropriate, remember that Liberals plagiarize Marx, Stalin, Hitler and others all the time.
    Ohferchristsake. Some conservatives, the dreck they come out with, you gotta wonder how they manage to navigate across the floor to the computer, never mind find a website.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    What punishment does Joe Biden suggest?
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/06/us...g.html?hp&_r=0

    I can't decide if this is silly or pathetic, but at the very least it's embarrassing for a grown-ass man. In school plagiarism can be grounds for expulsion. What should it be for real adults in the real world?
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    Joe Biden plagiarised Neil Kinnock speech - Telegraph
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