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Thread: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/06/us...g.html?hp&_r=0



    I can't decide if this is silly or pathetic, but at the very least it's embarrassing for a grown-ass man. In school plagiarism can be grounds for expulsion. What should it be for real adults in the real world?
    They are already laws for this. It would be up to the individual who owns the rights to the work to file charges. Prison sentences are very rare unless you are making millions of dollars off of pirating movies or something like that.

    The owner of the work could be entitled to financial compensation that resulted from the work being copied. I see no financial damages in this instance. I would have to recommend no punishment in this case.

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    They plagiarized the intolerance. Only the liberals changed Jews, Gypsies, blacks and Homosexuals to Conservatives, Christians, Whites and heterosexuals. Same intolerance, same intolerant rhetoric, even a lot of the early methodologies. No, they haven't yet moved on to the "final solution", but I am not holding my breath that they won't try to implement it.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    It depends on the job. A professional writer or news reporter engaging in plagiarism is much worse than a speech being given by a politician.

    Herman Cain was plagiarizing pokemon speeches and stealing his economic ideas from The Sims in a effort to appeal to the gamer vote.

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/06/us...g.html?hp&_r=0



    I can't decide if this is silly or pathetic, but at the very least it's embarrassing for a grown-ass man. In school plagiarism can be grounds for expulsion. What should it be for real adults in the real world?

    It depends on whether or not the plagiarism is innocent and how substantial it is. I imagine there are many terms and phrases that, while originated by someone deserving of attribution, have been absorbed by the language and culture to the point where they could be considered public property. Additionally, sometimes when we read or hear things we pick them up without noting where they came from, recalling only the truth of the thing.

    I think someone who plagiarizes definitely deserves a certain measure of ridicule, and if the plagiarism is substantial and for profit I think it's appropriate for the copyright holder to sue. If the plagiarism is substantial and done as part of a work for hire, that's grounds for immediate termination for the sake of the employer's reputation.

    What qualifies as substantial? Something beyond a term, a turn of phrase or an expression. There has to be enough lifted from someone else's work that if it is cut away from your work the meaning and/or impact is affected.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/06/us...g.html?hp&_r=0



    I can't decide if this is silly or pathetic, but at the very least it's embarrassing for a grown-ass man. In school plagiarism can be grounds for expulsion. What should it be for real adults in the real world?
    We have laws on this which work just fine. I see no reason to change them.

    In Paul's case if the owner of the corpywritten work wants to file suit. I doubt wikipedia and whatever group did the study Paul stole from really are going to bother, so that ends that. I find it hilarious however that Paul is trying to play the victim. Whatever happened to taking responsibility, and not just blaming the media and the ones who found out what you did?
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    You cannot blame me if others cannot read that I am not a conservative. It is not my intention to influence anything pro or con towards conservatives, unless of course, I specifically bring them up. The misunderstanding of others should not reflect upon you or yours.
    OK, OK- I guess I put the wrong spin on that Republic of Texasbull**** under your avatar.
    Signing on with that crowd takes you well enough away from the ranks of Conservatives,
    and into the ranks of the lunatic fringe.

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    OK, OK- I guess I put the wrong spin on that Republic of Texasbull**** under your avatar.
    Signing on with that crowd takes you well enough away from the ranks of Conservatives,
    and into the ranks of the lunatic fringe.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Nope, not a liberal or any other kind of leftist either.
    There is a left wing fringe, although mainstream liberalism is not part of it. Not to anyone except the right wing fringe, that is.

    Our doctrinaire Marxist pal Hatuey is a good example of a left-wing fringe member. Come to think of it our Mr. DVSentinel might be considered a right-wing equivalent of Mr. Hatuey. I bet those two could get into a real pissing contest!

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    While I'm DEFINITELY not a Rand Paul fan, this is much ado about nothing. So what? Borrowing a few sentences? This isn't a novel for sale, it's a speech or whatever.
    It was far more than "borrowing a few sentences". He "borrowed (or, in reality STOLE) complete works" and presented them as his own.

    If Americans had any decency, shaming would be appropriate and sufficient. Unfortunately, we are losing our decency (or sensitivity for right and wrong), as many see little wrong with this.... as evidence per above. As someone else pointed out, this will get you expelled from most schools, including ALL of our military academies. They think its a big deal.

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/06/us...g.html?hp&_r=0



    I can't decide if this is silly or pathetic, but at the very least it's embarrassing for a grown-ass man. In school plagiarism can be grounds for expulsion. What should it be for real adults in the real world?
    It was footnoted at the back of the book. So, its not really plagiarism.
    Should have been indented or in quotations, but its not Rand Pauls fault as much as his writer and the printer.
    And no, Iam not a Rand Paul or Ron Paul supporter.

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