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Thread: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    You only gave three terms, and in order to convince anyone you might have a case you need to provide, oh, two or three dozen more.
    http://brommage.freeshell.org/marx/su07/glossary.pdf

    commodity, labor, wage labor, concentration of capital, capitalist class.

    I think it is probably safe to say that few if any modern economists would agree with you, except maybe for the ones in Cuba, North Korea, and a few (now very few) academic departments elsewhere.
    I'm not threatened by spurious and uneducated associations. If you can find me a more detailed study of capitalism than Marx's - I'm open to suggestions. Again, Marx's work and analysis of capitalists society is quite possibly the most important piece of work by an economist since the Code of Hammurabi. Find me a book that can hold a candle to Das Kapital in the last 100 years? What? Atlas Shrugged? Please.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    What? What does that even mean? I can't consider that there's anything more complex than a, what, 'binary data set'? What the hell is a binary data set in this discussion?
    Well then, I guess I have my answer.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    And a second time I won't answer because what you ask is not what I said.
    Oh yes you did. You said Liberals plagiarize Hitler. Then you qualified your statement as to what they plagiarized. So I asked you to show some evidence. Come on now.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Public criticism is good enough. That being said, I'm not moved in the slightest. Politicians and their staff borrow ideas all the time in speeches.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Well then, I guess I have my answer.
    Oh, you probably have, but it didn't come from me.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh yes you did. You said Liberals plagiarize Hitler. Then you qualified your statement as to what they plagiarized. So I asked you to show some evidence. Come on now.
    They plagiarized the intolerance. Only the liberals changed Jews, Gypsies, blacks and Homosexuals to Conservatives, Christians, Whites and heterosexuals. Same intolerance, same intolerant rhetoric, even a lot of the early methodologies. No, they haven't yet moved on to the "final solution", but I am not holding my breath that they won't try to implement it.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    http://brommage.freeshell.org/marx/su07/glossary.pdf

    commodity, labor, wage labor, concentration of capital, capitalist class.
    Your citation does not claim that Marx was the author of any of the terms.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm not threatened by spurious and uneducated associations. If you can find me a more detailed study of capitalism than Marx's - I'm open to suggestions.
    I am not sure that what you call detail is actually important, and I would say that the post-Marxist study of capitalism probably runs to millions of pages now in print.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Again, Marx's work and analysis of capitalists society is quite possibly the most important piece of work by an economist since the Code of Hammurabi.
    Hammurabi was not an economist, he was a king, and his code was not an economic treatise, it was a legal code.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Find me a book that can hold a candle to Das Kapital in the last 100 years? What? Atlas Shrugged? Please.
    I doubt any professional economist takes Rand seriously. Try Keynes, though, or Friedman.

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Indeed, how dare we expect our politicians to tell voters what they think in their own words when it's so much easier to tell people what others have thought. Why let perfectly good published words go uncopied??? Surely our time is worth too much to be bothered with writing our own stuff, and besides everyone knows that laws don't apply to the people who actually write said laws; they only apply to the rest of us powerless losers!

    /sarcasm

    Plagiarism is bad, mkay? And repeatedly stealing the words of others is a pretty big red flag as to the lack of ethics of the one doing the stealing, and feeling like he/she has every right to confiscate anything that belongs to another if they freaking well feel like it, 'cause they are special snowflakes, don'tcha know!
    Last edited by DiAnna; 11-06-13 at 12:26 AM.

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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    They plagiarized the intolerance. Only the liberals changed Jews, Gypsies, blacks and Homosexuals to Conservatives, Christians, Whites and heterosexuals. Same intolerance, same intolerant rhetoric, even a lot of the early methodologies. No, they haven't yet moved on to the "final solution", but I am not holding my breath that they won't try to implement it.
    Ah, so you can't specifically cite anything they plagiarized. I'm glad you have no evidence whatsoever. I almost got worried.
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    Re: What Should Be Punishment for Plagiarism for an Adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    You grammar stinks and the thoughts behind it don't pass any smell tests either.

    It is people like you who give conservatiism a bad name
    You cannot blame me if others cannot read that I am not a conservative. It is not my intention to influence anything pro or con towards conservatives, unless of course, I specifically bring them up. The misunderstanding of others should not reflect upon you or yours.
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