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Thread: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

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    Re: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

    Doctors already come from other countries. I know a physician from Panama. If the sole issue is needing more doctors, well, it's already exceedingly difficult to get in medical school. More could be built here. If it's about "cheap immigrant labor," are you sure you want that responsible for your health?

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    Re: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

    None of the above, the first thing to be fixed is public health. Cost is very high because people aren't adherent to medications and therapy, they live unhealthy lives that cause the utilization of services and put more risk into their potential costs, and many who believe healthcare is a right that skip out on medical bills and drive up costs on others.

    Also FYI, many many foreign doctors do not have the education that US trained physicians and surgeons have. Many have the equivalent of a masters degree to practice medicine and require about 6 years to complete. They get less training on average and in my experience tend to make more errors. Their credentials may be legally recognized here, but their training is not the same as a US MD/DO
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    Re: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This option actually shocked me. Would you be alright with importing doctors from any other country? Or specific countries?
    Why not? My lung doctor is from India and he is one of the best. Wife's heart doctor from Canada, our family doctor from Thailand. All are outstanding doctors. One needs to keep in mind that according to CNN that by 2015 there will be a 150,000 doctor shortage in the U.S. Now that was before Obamacare and the addition of what? 10-20-30 million new patients or how many it is.
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    Re: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Why not? My lung doctor is from India and he is one of the best. Wife's heart doctor from Canada, our family doctor from Thailand. All are outstanding doctors. One needs to keep in mind that according to CNN that by 2015 there will be a 150,000 doctor shortage in the U.S. Now that was before Obamacare and the addition of what? 10-20-30 million new patients or how many it is.
    It was shocking because jamesrage isn't really a fan of "immigrants taking our jobs".
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    Re: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Why not? My lung doctor is from India and he is one of the best. Wife's heart doctor from Canada, our family doctor from Thailand. All are outstanding doctors. One needs to keep in mind that according to CNN that by 2015 there will be a 150,000 doctor shortage in the U.S. Now that was before Obamacare and the addition of what? 10-20-30 million new patients or how many it is.
    What is the answer here? We probably will have the problem of millions of new patients at the same time there is a critical shortage of doctors. Everyone accepts that possibility, but my question is what is likely to happen if there are 100 people waiting to see one doctor? It seems to me that it will likely be much the same as the doomsday scenario predicted by the government in case of a nuclear attack. Is that our future?

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    Re: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It was shocking because jamesrage isn't really a fan of "immigrants taking our jobs".
    I call it common sense. The one up till now the U.S. had to offer foreign doctors is good pay. I am not sure how Obamacare will or will not effect this. But if the pay falls off we may not get the influx of foreign doctors we do today. A lot of countries will send their students to the U.S. to go to school here to learn the Doctor trade and those students end up staying here because of the financial rewards. I suppose time will tell.
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    Re: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's no secret that before Obama came along, the US had major healthcare problems. However, it's clear that fixing it is up for debate. so I took 5 major issues in the healthcare industry and put them up against each other. Which one do you think should have been fixed before ObamaCare? Multiple choice is allowed, votes are public.

    Cost:

    Medical bills prompt more than 60 percent of U.S. bankruptcies - CNN.com



    Medical Malpractice:


    10 Things You Want To Know About Medical Malpractice - Forbes



    Medicaid/Medicare Fraud:


    Medicare And Medicaid Fraud Is Costing Taxpayers Billions - Forbes



    Denial of Coverage:

    Insurers Denied Coverage to 1 in 7 - WSJ.com



    Claim Denial:

    PolitiFact | TV ad overstates health insurance denials
    I can't understand why people would vote "cost." Yeah, of course cost! But you don't magically wave a wand to fix cost -- you attack it one step at a time.

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    Re: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

    Cost.

    However there are various aspects of that which must be addressed, so it's not as simple as just reducing the cost.

    I have heard from several sources that one of the issues that is both cause and effect is how much hospitals charge insurance companies for a procedure.

    At some point in the past, apparently, insurance companies decided to "settle" a cost by paying the hospital a fraction of what they asked for - thus hospitals started raising prices so they could at least break even with the reduced amount they actually were paid.

    And as I understand it, this has been slowly spiraling ever higher in a cycle of "well we'll offer them this much", and "charge them more so when they offer us 50% we can actually break even".

    This is, I think, one of the reasons for increasing procedure, operation, and testing costs.
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    Re: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Why not? My lung doctor is from India and he is one of the best. Wife's heart doctor from Canada, our family doctor from Thailand. All are outstanding doctors. One needs to keep in mind that according to CNN that by 2015 there will be a 150,000 doctor shortage in the U.S. Now that was before Obamacare and the addition of what? 10-20-30 million new patients or how many it is.
    They may have come from other countries but where were they trained? Except for the Canadian doctor, the others I expect would have had training in the US, Japan or Europe. At least in Canada doctors from developing countries (trained in those countries) have a very difficult time in getting certified to practice
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    Re: What should be the first step to fixing healthcare in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    What is the answer here? We probably will have the problem of millions of new patients at the same time there is a critical shortage of doctors. Everyone accepts that possibility, but my question is what is likely to happen if there are 100 people waiting to see one doctor? It seems to me that it will likely be much the same as the doomsday scenario predicted by the government in case of a nuclear attack. Is that our future?

    Greetings, Pero.
    Glad to have you back Pol, it was a lonely night last night. I don't know. I might be a pretty good political prognosticator and I do have my senate update number 3 for 1 Nov posted. I don't have an answer, it seems everyone is forecasting what will happen, either heavenly panacea via the ACA or the nuclear holocaust. My guess is something in the middle which will be worse for those who already had insurance and a whole lot better for those who had none or very poor policies.

    What I can't understand is why all the major hospitals down here are buying up all these private practices. Has that happen up there where you live? Emory has bought our our original family practice, Piedmont has bought out our lung and heart doctors practices, Northside the cancer treatment place in our county, Peidmont bought our county hospital, Now Emory, Peidmont, Northside are huge, huge big hospitals in Atlanta. I feel something is amiss.
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