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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Isn't that what people did when they voted for Obama?



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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I didn't say that a bell curve is an artificial construct.

    And there's nothing wrong with datasets that do not conform to a bell curve. Such non-conformance is not, in any way, a sign that the data or the process is wrong . There's nothing unnatural about it.

    Here's an example:

    The bell curve pertains to the distribution of data. That's not what the above chart shows, so there's no reason to expect that it would show a bell curve.


    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    However, the IQ test is designed to produce results that graph out to a bell curve based on the assumption that intelligence is distributed in a bell curve
    That's nonsense. If the data are expected to be normally distributed, then you don't have to “design” anything to make them fit a bell curve. Normally-distributed data will fit a bell curve without any such tinkering.

    You seem to be operating from an amazing ignorance of basic statistical principles, built upon a badly-flawed premise that you know anything at all useful about this field. It also seems that you think it is somehow valid and expected that one should adjust the measurement and analysis methods in order to fit the data to an expected result.
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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Do I still have to pay for RED scofflaws who buy crap when they are forced to emergency scare ?
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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    It may be true that half the population is below average (or mean), but you were incorrect when you said that it is true by definition.

    By definition, it is true that half the population is below the median. That's what the median is—the point that divides the top half from the bottom half. Also known as the 50th percentile. It may or may not be very close to the average/mean, but nothing about the definition of any term requires this to be so nor guarantees that it will be.
    Understood. Thanks for the correction.
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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    The bell curve pertains to the distribution of data. That's not what the above chart shows, so there's no reason to expect that it would show a bell curve.
    Data distributions do not have to conform to a bell curve. I'm not sure where you got that idea.


    That's nonsense. If the data are expected to be normally distributed, then you don't have to “design” anything to make them fit a bell curve. Normally-distributed data will fit a bell curve without any such tinkering.
    And yet, that's what the "authors" of the IQ tests do.
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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Literal, actual crap? Yes, I should have a God-given right to, dammit!
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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Data distributions do not have to conform to a bell curve. I'm not sure where you got that idea.
    No, they don't have to, but in general, they tend to do so, and when they don't, that's usually a good reason to wonder why.

    Anyway, I have much better things to do that argue about statistics and data analysis with someone who obviously thinks that he knows much, much more about the subject than he actually does.
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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Do I still have to pay for RED scofflaws who buy crap when they are forced to emergency scare ?
    Yes, and for the BLUE ones, too. The only difference now is that it is institutionalized through codification.

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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Do I still have to pay for RED scofflaws who buy crap when they are forced to emergency scare ?
    Yep. You also now get to subsidize exchange insurance for all folks that opt to take it whether they use the ER (or any other care) or not
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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well, I would think you had better hope the government doesn't one day decide some of your stupid decisions are no longer allowed because they've decided they hurt others.

    Like what kind of clothes you wear, or what kind of food you eat? Maybe where you chose to live, or what profession you chose to follow?

    Why is it that history shows slippery slopes are so hard for some to see.
    And why is it that some see "slippery slopes" where there are none? Not going bankrupt because you get sick is not Govt. interference it is govt. doing its job. Who do you think pays those medical bills when someone declares bankruptcy?

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