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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That is probably true of both you and I, but statistics show that half the population has a below average IQ. And experience shows that the american people, as a whole, are not equipped to make the right decision, as demonstrated by how their preference for crappy insurance has foisted their health care expenses on those of us smart enough to purchase good insurance. As a result of their stupidity, health care costs have escalated to the point where they threaten our economy and our well-being.
    Obamacare is threatening every working American that had great insurance and our well being.

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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    It has n0othign to do with this is about government preventing people form making stupid decisions that hurt the rest of us.
    First you have to define what you consider to be a health plan that is crappy, then explain why someone is stupid for buying such a plan and then explain how doing so hurts anyone else. All you are demonstrating here is a statist reflex to defend anything the government commands you to do

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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That is probably true of both you and I, but statistics show that half the population has a below average IQ. And experience shows that the american people, as a whole, are not equipped to make the right decision, as demonstrated by how their preference for crappy insurance has foisted their health care expenses on those of us smart enough to purchase good insurance. As a result of their stupidity, health care costs have escalated to the point where they threaten our economy and our well-being.
    By definition half the population will have a below average IQ and it doesn't follow from that that simply because one has a below average IQ one is incapable of sound decision making.

    What makes for a bad insurance policy? And is the policy bad or is it that people are buying policies that are ill suited for their needs? Those are I think two completely different things.
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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    It has n0othign to do with this is about government preventing people form making stupid decisions that hurt the rest of us.
    Well, I would think you had better hope the government doesn't one day decide some of your stupid decisions are no longer allowed because they've decided they hurt others.

    Like what kind of clothes you wear, or what kind of food you eat? Maybe where you chose to live, or what profession you chose to follow?

    Why is it that history shows slippery slopes are so hard for some to see.

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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well, I would think you had better hope the government doesn't one day decide some of your stupid decisions are no longer allowed because they've decided they hurt others.

    Like what kind of clothes you wear, or what kind of food you eat? Maybe where you chose to live, or what profession you chose to follow?

    Why is it that history shows slippery slopes are so hard for some to see.
    Technically all those things already exist for example if I lived in Qubec it is technically illegal to possess and sell soy butter now that is stupid but making things such as the incredibly stupid beer made form jet fuel I agree with. I would love to see sagging pants in public laws. Though for the places you can live unlike Americans we have a right to it. We also limit professions such as we do not allow voodoo healers. So far we haven't slid down that slippery slope. Many other countries have already done it by eliminating health insurance. We have things called regulations if you have a right to buy crap why do we need food inspectors?

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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    First you have to define what you consider to be a health plan that is crappy, then explain why someone is stupid for buying such a plan and then explain how doing so hurts anyone else. All you are demonstrating here is a statist reflex to defend anything the government commands you to do
    One that allows the insurance company to get out of paying for whatever services you need and sticking the bill on the rest of us.

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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

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    Perhaps we need to get government involved, to establish some minimum standards for a forum discussion to meet, and to make it illegal to start a discussion based on a crap premise.
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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    By definition half the population will have a below average IQ and it doesn't follow from that that simply because one has a below average IQ one is incapable of sound decision making.

    What makes for a bad insurance policy? And is the policy bad or is it that people are buying policies that are ill suited for their needs? Those are I think two completely different things.
    Experience has shown that too many people are not capable of choosing the policy that is right for them as demonstrated by the fact that an inability to pay medical bills is the leading cause of bankruptcy in the US
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Technically all those things already exist for example if I lived in Qubec it is technically illegal to possess and sell soy butter now that is stupid but making things such as the incredibly stupid beer made form jet fuel I agree with. I would love to see sagging pants in public laws. Though for the places you can live unlike Americans we have a right to it. We also limit professions such as we do not allow voodoo healers. So far we haven't slid down that slippery slope. Many other countries have already done it by eliminating health insurance. We have things called regulations if you have a right to buy crap why do we need food inspectors?

    Of course conflating the issue really addresses to point...

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    Re: Do You Have A Right To Buy Crap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    By definition half the population will have a below average IQ and it doesn't follow from that that simply because one has a below average IQ one is incapable of sound decision making.
    It's probably true that more than half the population do not understand the difference between median and average.
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