View Poll Results: Which one is the most dishonest active politician?

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  • President Obama

    38 44.71%
  • Joe Biden

    0 0%
  • John Boehner

    7 8.24%
  • Harry Reid

    7 8.24%
  • Nancy Peloisi

    2 2.35%
  • Mitch McConnell

    2 2.35%
  • Governor Christie

    1 1.18%
  • Rand Paul

    2 2.35%
  • Ted Cruz

    12 14.12%
  • OTHER

    14 16.47%
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  1. #121
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    Re: Which one is the most dishonest active Politician?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Far right, nazi

    Far left, communism


    You may not like it but only revisionists try to distort reality are into re-branding what is right wing filth into left wing filth. We on the left have our own filth/dark past to understand and never repeat and we are not going to take the blame because some on the right are trying to revise history for dishonest or worse reasons. Sorry, not going to play that game.
    The re-branding was done early on, which is why you are now absolutely convinced, without putting any mental effort at all into it.

    Speaks volumes, so thanks... I guess, for sparing me what, obviously, would have been a totally wasted effort.
    "...But resist we much, we must and we will much, about that be committed..." --- the right Reverend Alfred Charles "Al" Shaprton, Jr.

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    Re: Which one is the most dishonest active Politician?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    You bet. They did things to help and appeal to the average worker and citizen. But, they also understood that a richer business/manufacturing class was necessary as well.

    I read a term in a book just recently about their goal. It was "consensus dictatorship", if I recall correctly. Basically, yes, they wanted to rule dictatorially, but they wanted it to be legitimately popular at the same time.
    As far as I understand the people that lived at that time the consensus was rather broadly based. What is interesting is that that is still a central feature of German culture and you could call it a "consensus culture" with what you would then call a "consensus democracy". Problem is, that that means that, when the consensus is wrong it holds on to mistaken policy much longer than less consensus driven societies, because the sanctions for breaking ranks are high. And so the costs of the mistake grow much larger than they would in a less consensus ridden culture. This is what is happening at the moment with a number of issues.
    The second problem is that in a consensus dominated society there is no effective mechanism to avoid sliding into dictatorship once the slide take force. Too few realize, what is happening until it is very late. This was one major factor in the 1930s slide into Nazism.

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    Re: Which one is the most dishonest active Politician?

    I haven't and will not read this thread, which is (I am almost sure) just going to be various posters bitching about their pet politician hates.

    But I personally think that, in the current federal political framework (and many if not all of the state frameworks, local frameworks, etc), a politicians success has an inverse relationship to how corrupt they are.

    IOW, a corrupt politician is a successful politician.
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    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

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