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Would you quit your job?

If you were guaranteed a $25,000 income would you quit your job and stay unemployed?

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cpwill said:
The OP only says "you", indicating that the assumption is, well, you. Not a you in an alternate universe where Uncle Warbucks left you a cool billion.
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Perhaps I earned it inventing and selling iWater. Either way it alters the parameters of the OP and renders it meaningless.

As for adding "status", :shrug: the argument remains the exact same if you remove the word. You can do odd jobs and pick up cash and remain unemployed, as demonstrated by the people who do so.
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Those people work. Just because they don't declare what they earn doesn't mean they are unemployed. "Status" certainly alters the meaning.
 
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cpwill said:
No, it's not. Since household size, habitation, etc. were never a condition in the first place, describing their effects on the decision cannot be a changing of goalposts as those goalposts never existed in the first place to be changed.
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Any change alters the impact of employment vs. $25,000. If I move from a mansion with a $6,000/month mortgage to a one-bedroom apartment rental that's $800/month, I've altered the parameters and rendered the OP question meaningless.

Quite the contrary. I have only argued that there are people who would choose "yes" to the original question of the OP, and described some of the reasons they would do so. It is you who are attempting to add in extra restrictions that are not in the OP.
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No, you have added extra variables to the OP effectively altering it. And what I have done is argued some of the reasons why people who chose "no" would do so.



:shrug: It would ask each individual to specifically describe their reasoning - that would be the main qualitative addition.
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It's a little more complex than that. I would also ask an individual to consider different future options that might sway them in one direction or the other.
 
Man you guys honestly don't know how much it sucks. When my hearts ejection fraction was around ten percent I wanted nothing more than to be able to do things again. Work life make love. They are all great things!
 
Cardinal said:
I was listening to an economist one day who said something I thought sounded kind of practical: if your tuition is greater than what you expect to be making per year, you're paying too much for your education.

Then again, if I had taken that that advice I wouldn't have become an artist, and I'm actually doing alright with that.
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Well, you must be either REALLY good or lucky. :)
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
And who said I didn't?
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Then I don't need to answer your inquiries as you already know the answer. Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to? Just to waste time or for something to pick at? I'm guessing the later.
 
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You guys are reading TOO much into the OP. The question is would you give up your current job and collect $25,000 in income. THAT IS IT!!! There are no "side jobs" or "spouses" involved.

Stick to the darn OP and answer the question!! :roll:
 
If I can make another 50 grand selling my ass or crack, sign me up.
 
calamity said:
If I can make another 50 grand selling my ass or crack, sign me up.
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No, you can't. The OP question is quit your job for $25,000 in income. Not $25,000 plus whatever you can make on the side, doing whatever. :roll:
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
As soon as you add "off the book" income or two cohabitating adults, you change the goalposts of the OP... which is what you did.
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Do you seriously believe that those getting SS, UI or welfare (in all of its many forms) are not doing that now?
 
The only year I spent more than I earned was 2009 when I bought the pick up and building materials. Every year since I've broken even or even added to my savings. I even went on an Alaskan Cruise in 2011 and just recently did dig into savings for a trip to Ireland. Living on what you grow and can gather from mother nature isn't that hard - its just work that most people refuse to do. Gasoline can mess me up financially because I still travel a great deal between my home in NV and my home in CA. Property taxes and insurance (together) do equal my gas bill but alone they don't.


CaptainCourtesy said:
You had money in the bank which really negates your argument. You could have made nothing and been fine.

Btw... neat story. I'm always impressed by those who seem to be "off the grid".
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phattonez said:
That's an attitude I definitely feel sympathy for, but I don't feel it personally because the government is currently taking half of my income each year.
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Same here.. but, if i were to make a different choice than rather work for less, as long as i am able to...i know that this has to be paid for by the working class... so it would only increase that tax burden for those still working. It's just what some people are referring to as "freeloaders", and they do exist, of course.. though at way lower numbers than what certain media outlets and conservative politicians try to make us believe, imo.

Social security should be a security net, not a hammock. If i can work, i will do so, no matter what. If i don't, i take advantage of the system, on the back of all those who do continue to work, and to try as hard as they can. If i try as hard as i can, and still cannot make a proper living, this is where the system fails. Now, one can either put the needed money on top by the government... filling the pot to 25k / year ( or whatever the proper number would be), OR, the government could work towards legislation that allows everyone to make a living of 25 K at least with a full time job (minimum wage).

Either way, someone has to pay for the deficit. either the working class, by increased taxes for social welfare, or corporations, by mandatory increases on the wages they have to pay on low-income jobs.

If i were to decide, i would choose the latter option.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
:confused: This isn't a game show. You don't get points for being the most noble person alive. You just screw yourself over. Nobody will know how noble you are. You can brag sometimes about how great you are. For the most part, high horses are invisible. You will be the only one who knows how awesome you are. That's dumb.
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Why would I care if anyone else knew? Something's you do for your own sense of self worth. In this case, knowing I'm not responsible for the gov sanctioned theft of someone else's hard earn money means I don't feel the guilt that other sensible people feel. It is only the truly lazy and incompetent and horrible people that demand gov benefits for life.
 
Considering it's more than my first few jobs (significantly, perhaps accounting even for inflation), I may have then. Make that while going to school, why the hell not?
Also, if I met my wife back then, between the two of us a $50K/year without having to formally work? We could probably do pretty good living off that in our 20s' without kids or expensive cars/homes/lifestyles.

Would I *today*? No. Would I in 5 years? Likely. An extra $25K guaranteed. That's roughly 3% of $ 833K dollars. Not a terrible nest egg considering you didn't have to save that $833K.
 
ksu_aviator said:
Why would I care if anyone else knew? Something's you do for your own sense of self worth. In this case, knowing I'm not responsible for the gov sanctioned theft of someone else's hard earn money means I don't feel the guilt that other sensible people feel. It is only the truly lazy and incompetent and horrible people that demand gov benefits for life.
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A lazy incompotent horrible bum's money is accepted at the same places that the honest hard working patriot's money is accepted.

Of course you would want people to know that you weren't accepting handouts, how else would you be able to enjoy the feeling of superiority?

Be careful though. It's a double edged sword. The lazy incompoent horrible bum will think he is superior to you because he has more money than you. Currently government employees that receive $80,000 in government handouts is superior to a single mom receiving $5,000 in government handouts. Human nature mandates that we find flaws in others to puff ourselves up. You are no exception.
 
calamity said:
If I can make another 50 grand selling my ass or crack, sign me up.
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If you are a women who is good looking you could make 50 grand easily selling your ass

Figure two customers a day at 200 each for 4 days a week, that is 1600 a week or 83 200 a year. If you worked independently of course. Location of course will have an impact on how much you could charge, and figure for more customers at a lower rate if working with an agent. Or no income if working with a pimp
 
Bodhisattva said:
Done! What else can the government give you?
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I don't take either. I pay a lot of taxes, so don't ask me. I'm just responding to the OP -- that wouldn't be enough to live on. I'd need that plus food stamps to be able to live. And I still wouldn't do it. I have a nice job, no way in hell I'm giving it up to live in poverty.
 
By the way, if you guys think living in poverty is such a great life, why don't you quit your jobs and do it?
 
Grendel said:
I don't take either. I pay a lot of taxes, so don't ask me. I'm just responding to the OP -- that wouldn't be enough to live on. I'd need that plus food stamps to be able to live. And I still wouldn't do it. I have a nice job, no way in hell I'm giving it up to live in poverty.
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But the government loves to give people things that they didn't earn with our money... might as well get something.
 
Grendel said:
By the way, if you guys think living in poverty is such a great life, why don't you quit your jobs and do it?
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Don't tempt me...
 
Bodhisattva said:
But the government loves to give people things that they didn't earn with our money... might as well get something.
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I do. I got a public education. I have decent public roads. I have public sewer and water. I have relatively clean air and clean water on tap. I have an economy that's relatively stable due to relatively sane regulation. I went to a public college to learn my trade. I have a safe neighborhood due to the public policing. I'm sitting here right now eating food that tells me exactly what's in it, and is safe, due to public food safety laws.

But, most importantly, I make a very good income in information technology. Specifically, the public Internet. Without a population that's educated enough to read and write, the whole thing would be useless and I'd be bagging groceries. I'd be riding my horse to my job bagging groceries at the general store, and probably keeping a shotgun handy in case robbers come. That's if I wasn't too sick to get to work because I drank bad well water.
 
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