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Would you quit your job?

If you were guaranteed a $25,000 income would you quit your job and stay unemployed?


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As I have pointed out, that is not a pay cut for many in the US and also means that you are free to live where you wish without any concern about commuting to a job. I considered it to be sort of an early retirement option. ;)

Well perhaps that should have been specified in the OP. The way I read the question is if you work and earn more than $25,000, would you take a cut in your pay to not work but have guaranteed income of $25,000. I say no, I would keep working to make more money and to live a more comfortable lifestyle.
 
Well perhaps that should have been specified in the OP. The way I read the question is if you work and earn more than $25,000, would you take a cut in your pay to not work but have guaranteed income of $25,000. I say no, I would keep working to make more money and to live a more comfortable lifestyle.

We (myself and my girlfriend) live on less than $50K/year so my perspective is that the OP deal would be more income and no requirement to work but with lots of free time to make "on the side" additional income..
 
We (myself and my girlfriend) live on less than $50K/year so my perspective is that the OP deal would be more income and no requirement to work but with lots of free time to make "on the side" additional income..

Well I make about $40,000 a year by myself, so I would certainly not take the $25,000.
 
Yes, but would you CHOOSE to live like that?

Certainly not

One reason of course is that my fixed living costs right now are higher then that, and I like my car, my house and the ability to go on vacations outside of the country every year
 
Certainly not

One reason of course is that my fixed living costs right now are higher then that, and I like my car, my house and the ability to go on vacations outside of the country every year

Maybe if you're a college kid, that would be a good deal, but most adults have car payments, mortgages, credit cards, and other bills to worry about, and in a lot of places in this country (like Massachusetts), you would have a hard time putting food on the table on only $25,000 a year.
 
Definitely not. That's a considerable amount less than I currently make.

Maybe if I was making minimum wage I'd take that deal.
 
Well I make about $40,000 a year by myself, so I would certainly not take the $25,000.

After taxes (and work/commuting related added costs of living) even you may come out ahead in that deal. Surely you spend over $100/month on taxes and commuting costs, perhaps even live in a high cost area to be near your job. Life in rural south/central Texas is comfortable and cheap - quite easy for a couple to live comfortably on $50K/year. ;)
 
After taxes (and work/commuting related added costs of living) even you may come out ahead in that deal. Surely you spend over $100/month on taxes and commuting costs, perhaps even live in a high cost area to be near your job. Life in rural south/central Texas is comfortable and cheap - quite easy for a couple to live comfortably on $50K/year. ;)

Actually, I work at home. So no commuting costs or aggravation for me! :mrgreen: I was thinking about moving to Tennessee actually. No state income tax, cost of living is much lower than in MA. I keep my same income and can live anywhere in the US and keep my same job. My salary can vary because I get paid by lines typed rather than an hourly wage or a salary-based wage.
 
It can also be very difficult if you're "over-degreed."

You can always not include some aspects of your education on your resume. Omitting things is acceptable, putting fake things on is not
 
Until a few months ago I lived in central California; I've just moved to a home I built in Nevada. Most of my food is grown or hunted. Most of my power is solar or the gasoline I purchase. I had a nice business until 2009, closed it then, and sold everything off. I had a big tax break thanks to the closure and losses which off set some of the income. Though I still have most of that savings I bought a pick up to haul materials out to where I built the home, and a hydrolic compressed earth machine for about 2k, and some of the building materials that went into building my home - then did it myself.

Where do you live... just the state and area?
 
If you were guaranteed a $25,000/year income by the government would you quit your job and stay unemployed?

I know I wouldn't, how about you?
Not one chance in Hell. Not were they to offer me a nine figure pay-off.
 
If you were guaranteed a $25,000/year income by the government would you quit your job and stay unemployed?

I know I wouldn't, how about you?

It boils down to an effort to benefit ratio. If you can live off of that amount and you are unwilling to put in the effort to make more, then it's acceptable. If you can't live off of that amount, and/or you want to put in the effort to make more, then it's unacceptable.
 
I would consider the $25,000 as a tied-me-over amount while I look for a better paying job, if I was an employee.

For me I can't sit around and do nothing, it would drive me crazy, so no 25K would not be enough and especially from the government.
 
Which doesn't fit the premise of the OP. Why would I give up a job to make less money and live less comfortably? I wouldn't. The OP offers a CHOICE. It's an easy choice: less money and less comfortably or more money and more comfortably. I'd like to know the motivations of anyone who would choose the former.

You are excluding both leisure as a good and off-book labor as a source of supplemental income. If you are currently making (as an example) $27,000 a year, then quitting your job to make $25K only reduces your (official) income by $2 Grand, but in trade you get all your free time back to raise your kids, or work (or not) as you please in simple cash-jobs. If you were having to pay for child-care with your slightly higher income, then shifting to 25K a year may well improve your family's standard of living. Or, if you are a single young adult, then simply sharing a rented apartment with a buddy increases your "household" income to $50k, which is the median income in the U.S., and far from the dregs of poverty.
 
I live in NJ. From what I am aware, finding something decent for less than $1000/month is nearly impossible. That's half of what you would make right there. One could NOT live comfortably on $25,000/year here. Since it would make little sense to take the free $25,000 and live uncomfortably, when one could work, make more, and live comfortably, $25,000/year doesn't cut it.

I get by and spend more than $1000 per month on rent. If I could live just about as comfortably as I do now, but don't have to work, then I take that deal without hesitation.
 
The great thing about work is it gives you less time to spend shopping.

Again, I see little difference in the premise of this thread and Social Security.
 
Other than that, no way would i choose a government paycheck over work, ever. I'd rather work for 18k$ per year, then get 25 k from the government for nothing.

That's an attitude I definitely feel sympathy for, but I don't feel it personally because the government is currently taking half of my income each year.
 
If I have no job, I get $25,000? What if I have a job making $15,000 - do I get $10,000? If I have a job making $24,999 I get $1?

If we assume everyone who currently makes less than $25,000 (after taxes) takes the money and quits while everyone who makes more than $25,000 keeps the job (a faulty assumption, to be sure, but it works for this) what does it do to the economy? Obviously nearly all food service jobs, retail, etc... are vacated. Why work for less than minimum guaranteed pay? Those that kept their jobs now have difficulty spending it for groceries and restaurants. Obviously that's not a sustainable position, the market will correct by forcing wages to go up on those low income jobs until there's enough people to fill them. Obviously the prices on those items also goes up to pay the now required higher wages to fill the jobs. I suspect we'd see a shift to lower labor alternatives. It'd make more sense to buy a few weeks food at a time at a grocery store than buying fast food for very many meals.

We'd also see the same thing that happens now on all income contingent welfare benefits/disability. If I make $10,000 on a job it reduces my $25,000 to $15,000. But only if the $10,000 job is known. A lot of low income jobs will probably shift to "under the table". Cash doesn't count as income, right?

Some of the downsides could be avoided by making the guaranteed $25,000 constant regardless of income. Whether you have a job making $10,000 or get a salary from daddy's corporation of $2,000,000 pay them both the $25,000. The $10,000 minimum wage worker then has the choice of $25,000 or $35,000 so there's still incentive for them to work. To be sure, some would decide the extra $10,000 isn't worth it. But the effects would be less severe.
 
I'm semi retired and only make around 30k a year to avoid sucking to much out of my retirement savings so I guess I'd quit working for 25K a year except that a lot of my income is a result of cleaning up my land so I don't know what I would do with all the fire wood and lumber I now sell. That would be a problem.

What kind of wood and how much per cord ?
 
Well I guess that makes me insane. I like to keep busy and feeling productive

You can keep busy and be productive with out an income oriented job very easily...
 
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