View Poll Results: If you were guaranteed a $25,000 income would you quit your job and stay unemployed?

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    Re: Would you quit your job?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Government benefits are irrelevant to the point of employment. If you work, you are employed.
    No - if you are unemployed, you have a job. Somewhere that you are going to show up to for some time and get paychecks from. If you took $50 from someone to mow their lawn, you are not employed, and not counted as employed. If you claim to be looking for work, and take $50 to mow a lawn, you still count as unemployed. The receipt of benefits (in this case, a $25K monetary transfer) is dependent upon a definition of unemployment different than the one you are seeking to have applied.

    He doesn't seem to have revisited the thread.
    PM? Threaten to speak sarcastically about him downstairs if he doesn't make a ruling?

    Without boundaries surrounding the scenario, the OP is completely meaningless. Of COURSE there are qualifiers. Without qualifiers, answering the question would be like dividing by zero. In order to get a reasonable response, parameters must be set.
    Correct - and the OP sets two: 1. quit your current job and 2. remain unemployed. Those are the only restrictions.

    No, an introvert is not necessarily an observer. Internet message boards are boons for introverts. Introverts are less likely to enjoy socializing, face-to-face.

    I've actually never taken a look at them. I am currently pursing training in advanced Myers-Briggs assessments.
    it's very possible I'm projecting - as an ENTP, I love the variety and cut-and-thrust of the place, as well as the ability to develop expertise. But I had thought that introverts were also less likely to engage in conflict?

    Actually, if you take a look at the poll numbers... from an ideological standpoint, we see the exact opposite of what you are saying. I don't see anyone on the ideological left voting "yes". Yet, I see a lot of libertarians voting "yes"... or challenging the "no's".
    In this poll yes - as I pointed out above, those on the left seem to have an ideological vested interest in demonstrating that people will not cheat a social welfare system, whereas those on the right have a vested interest in demonstrating precisely that fact. In RL, very few are trying to make that precise argument with their own individual choices, and those who morally or ideologically are suspicious or oppose a welfare state are less likely to seek to leverage it than those who approve and encourage it, which is one of the reasons why I argue that this place is not representative. Over the years I've given up thousands of dollars because I felt obliged to stick to my beliefs in my personal life.

    Just goes to my theory that some have tried to turn this into some sort of "trap" thread.
    Wait - that wasn't clear from the first post?

    Well, there are two possibilities. Either I am right... or I am right about the "trap" based on the ideology of those who voted "yes" when one looks at what you said about the ideologies of how people would vote. Either way, I'm right.
    Or I am correct for the reasons described above - that DP is not representative of GP.

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    Re: Would you quit your job?

    A better way to have worded the poll would be would you quit your job if you received more money for not working?

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    Re: Would you quit your job?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I live here. I'm pretty sure I'm aware of the costs.
    Apparently not since I'm getting by just fine on not much more money than this.

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    Re: Would you quit your job?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Apparently not since I'm getting by just fine on not much more money than this.
    Well that depends on your expenses. Do you have a car payment, credit cards, etc.? There are all kinds of variables that would effect your ability to survive on that amount of money, and I have to say it would be very difficult to survive in my part of the country on that small amount of money too.

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    Re: Would you quit your job?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    $25k per year is plenty of money to have a decent car+insurance+a decent place to live. It's no surprise that a limousine liberal such as yourself has now idea how to live well with a $25k budget.
    Maybe it's because I don't live in the woods. Maybe not everyone lives in a depressed area of the country. Maybe where I live, the average price for a one bedroom is $1,395/month, and it's illegal to have more than two people + 1 infant living in it. I couldn't make that, plus food, thrift-store clothing, misc expenses, any kind of medical care, at all, electric bills, and still get a car that would pass inspection, plus fees, taxes, insurance and still be able to put gas in it. And the less spent on the car, the more on repairs. I've lived in destitution. That is destitution in this area. I wouldn't take that just to have a long vacation. Not on your life. Bring it up to $50k and I'd take it -- spend that time getting an advanced degree, one class at a time.

    A single mom with children would be lucky to find a 2 bedroom, even in a bad neighborhood, for less than $1200/month. That alone is 14,400 out of your 25k, leaving you with 12 k to feed & cloth herself and the two kids, get medication for them when they're sick, and find a car, gas and insurance. Food will cost you at least 2k for the year, bringing it down to 10k. Even at thrift stores, clothing for an adult and 2 kids will be at least 500/year, leaving you with 9.5. Healthcare for the two kids would be around a grand a year, so 8.5.

    And if anything goes wrong, you're screwed because you could possibly save on that.
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    Re: Would you quit your job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Why would I have to move out of my house?
    In this area, you can't get a house for that. Just renting a room from someone is at least $500/month.
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    Re: Would you quit your job?

    Liquid cash or ebt and housing vouchers, etc.?

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    Re: Would you quit your job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    housing vouchers, etc.?
    That might be something to consider, but mostly they put you in projects, which are hellish.
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    Re: Would you quit your job?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Well I guess that makes me insane. I like to keep busy and feeling productive
    You don't have any hobbies or passions? Gardening? Working with rescue animals? Exercising like we all know we should but usually don't take the time to? Home projects, like fixing the deadbolt that won't lock? Fixing up the house doing all the things we never get around to, like painting? Golf? Bowling league? A walking or hiking group? Tennis? Lectures by the Sierra Club? Sierra Club members also take excursions together that aren't expensive. Karate lessons? Getting a gun & learning to shoot at the target range? Spending more time with your dogs, either at home or the dog park or walking them? Time to clip coupons or search out deals to put a serious dent in your monthly grocery/household expenses? Once a month dinner out with friends? Once a month or more movies with friends? Reading for free (Kindle, library). Research on investing. Watching Judge Judy on tv? Standing in the back yard soaking up the sun on a beautiful day that you would normally have been on work?

    If you can afford it, lots of help is needed in various volunteer areas. You could volunteer any sort of service, whatever your skill is, or no skill at all. You can even get a job earning next to nothing working at polling places for elections. Most of those poll workers are retired people who are getting paid a miniscule amount. They perform an invaluable service to all of us. Goodwill, Salvation Army, animal rescue organizations, domestic abuse shelters...all sorts of places need volunteer help.

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    Re: Would you quit your job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    In this area, you can't get a house for that. Just renting a room from someone is at least $500/month.
    I own my house. It is paid off. Why would I have to move out of my house, or sell my car, for that matter. If I quit my job I would keep them.
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