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  • Afghanistan

    8 8.42%
  • Pakistan

    47 49.47%
  • Egypt

    3 3.16%
  • Saudi Arabia

    15 15.79%
  • Iraq

    0 0%
  • Israel

    13 13.68%
  • France

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  • South Korea

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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Hey, I'm not living in the country that didn't let US ships dock in my ports.

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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Considering the complete failure of leadership, the magical vanishing redlines, bluster, arrogance, spying, etc...I would say presuming that any of our ALLIES might be untrustworthy would be rather...hypocritical?

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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Considering the complete failure of leadership, the magical vanishing redlines, bluster, arrogance, spying, etc...I would say presuming that any of our ALLIES might be untrustworthy would be rather...hypocritical?
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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    As the world's only "super-power", I do not think we really have any "allies".
    Perhaps Israel....

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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Afghanistan: Afghanistan is a place with no real government or control of it's people. It's basically the wild west of the modern age. You can do whatever you want and there's a good chance you'll get away with it. Our enemies combined with the radical clerics provide that the fighting will never end in Afghanistan (even after we leave). I don't think we can trust them for anything.

    Pakistan: Is more of a threat because their state sponsors terrorism such as Hezbollah. They harbored Bin Laden for years. The even have cut off our supply lines for political squabbles in the past. I would say Pakistan out of any on this list is the most untrustworthy and the most likely to stab us in the back.
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    Saudi Arabia: Saudi Arabia turns out to be a good ally....mostly because we need fuel, they have fuel, and they understand they can make a killer profit off of us by just being friends with us. Secondly the Arabic world has been feuding with the Persian world (like Iran) for centuries. Most of the countries we are against have been Persian...so we're actually helping them. I think we can marginally trust them.

    Iraq: Iraq is a shell of it's former self. It'll take decades for it to get it's act together. Other than sharp edged words they don't have anything to hurt us with. It's not that I wouldn't trust them, it's more that I wouldn't bother asking them, because their troops are incompetent. The radical clerics are present here too.

    Israel: Israel is one of our greatest allies and I'd say we can greatly trust them. However make no mistake that Israel knows how to manipulate us. Anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.

    France: Who listens to France anyways? They're the butt of more jokes than not. I see them about as harmless as a penny in a pond.

    South Korea: South Korea is a good ally because they need us. Without us the North would annihilate them. So we can trust them because we have them under threat. If they piss us off enough we'll leave and they can deal with the little Kim.


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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Considering the complete failure of leadership, the magical vanishing redlines, bluster, arrogance, spying, etc...I would say presuming that any of our ALLIES might be untrustworthy would be rather...hypocritical?
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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by Constantine View Post
    Afghanistan: Afghanistan is a place with no real government or control of it's people. It's basically the wild west of the modern age. You can do whatever you want and there's a good chance you'll get away with it. Our enemies combined with the radical clerics provide that the fighting will never end in Afghanistan (even after we leave). I don't think we can trust them for anything.

    Pakistan: Is more of a threat because their state sponsors terrorism such as Hezbollah. They harbored Bin Laden for years. The even have cut off our supply lines for political squabbles in the past. I would say Pakistan out of any on this list is the most untrustworthy and the most likely to stab us in the back.
    Egypt:

    Saudi Arabia: Saudi Arabia turns out to be a good ally....mostly because we need fuel, they have fuel, and they understand they can make a killer profit off of us by just being friends with us. Secondly the Arabic world has been feuding with the Persian world (like Iran) for centuries. Most of the countries we are against have been Persian...so we're actually helping them. I think we can marginally trust them.

    Iraq: Iraq is a shell of it's former self. It'll take decades for it to get it's act together. Other than sharp edged words they don't have anything to hurt us with. It's not that I wouldn't trust them, it's more that I wouldn't bother asking them, because their troops are incompetent. The radical clerics are present here too.

    Israel: Israel is one of our greatest allies and I'd say we can greatly trust them. However make no mistake that Israel knows how to manipulate us. Anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.

    France: Who listens to France anyways? They're the butt of more jokes than not. I see them about as harmless as a penny in a pond.

    South Korea: South Korea is a good ally because they need us. Without us the North would annihilate them. So we can trust them because we have them under threat. If they piss us off enough we'll leave and they can deal with the little Kim.

    Of course the NK military is far superior than ours even though their defense budget is less than 10% of ours, that's for sure

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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Of course the NK military is far superior than ours even though their defense budget is less than 10% of ours, that's for sure
    They have numbers and discipline. Their equipment is all post soviet from the cold war. However like the Japanese in WW2 they are brainwashed to the point where they will fight to the death...all because they we're told to. Numbers matter. For example the US military is the strongest in the world ranging in at 313,847,465 personnel (2012) but China who has outdated equipment and recently embarrassed themselves with a copy of the F-35 Lightning that couldn't even fly....has 1,344,130,00 (2012) members of the military. You read that right...1 billion. Stalin's grand plan to defeat Hitler was to throw his forces at Hitler's, no retreat, no quarter, no taking of prisoners, and Stalin won the Eastern Front. The battle of Stalingrad is a classic example where soviet forces just kept sending more and more men until the Germans starved and then we're weak...and then they pulled off a pintzer movement and defeating them. So there's definitely strength in numbers.


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