View Poll Results: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?

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  • Afghanistan

    8 8.42%
  • Pakistan

    47 49.47%
  • Egypt

    3 3.16%
  • Saudi Arabia

    15 15.79%
  • Iraq

    0 0%
  • Israel

    13 13.68%
  • France

    1 1.05%
  • South Korea

    1 1.05%
  • Other

    7 7.37%
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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    India for instance......a former UK colony, that embraces slavery.
    Brazil, Turkey...
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by Constantine View Post
    Research military numbers. That little Gem came from research. You may want to try it some time. It's an invaluable skill.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/ch.html
    Military Strength of China.
    I just showed evidence of research and you tell me to research?

    I just showed evidence of military numbers and you tell me to research military numbers?

    Originally Posted by Constantine View Post

    They have numbers and discipline. Their equipment is all post soviet from the cold war. However like the Japanese in WW2 they are brainwashed to the point where they will fight to the death...all because they we're told to. Numbers matter. For example the US military is the strongest in the world ranging in at 313,847,465 personnel (2012) but China who has outdated equipment and recently embarrassed themselves with a copy of the F-35 Lightning that couldn't even fly....

    has 1,344,130,00 (2012) members of the military. You read that right...1 billion.

    Stalin's grand plan to defeat Hitler was to throw his forces at Hitler's, no retreat, no quarter, no taking of prisoners, and Stalin won the Eastern Front. The battle of Stalingrad is a classic example where soviet forces just kept sending more and more men until the Germans starved and then we're weak...and then they pulled off a pintzer movement and defeating them. So there's definitely strength in numbers.
    From YOUR OWN LINK:

    Total POULATION - 1,344,130,00
    Active Frontline Personal - 2,285,000

    I won't even bother with the rest because... dude, you are a joke. Go back to the 1st grade and learn basic math skills.

    Suddam's forces we're demoralized and didn't want to fight us. An entire division gave up at once during the war. It's hardly comparable or even relevant to a topic that addresses a psychological hold over a people. Suddam was a leader, to the North Koreans....the little Kim is a god king
    And some thought the same thing about Iraq:

    Iraqi army is tougher than US believes: The US claims a war against Saddam would be quick. Wrong, says analyst Toby Dodge, the conflict could be long and bloody

    Iraqi army is tougher than US believes | World news | The Guardian

    1. Wiklipedia is not a viable source. Middle schoolers are taught this. Yet you are going to counter with wikipedia. Stunning. Hurry up and go quick review another source before that one bites you in the butt lol.
    That is not what students are taught and if that is the message that you heard you heard it wrong, or your teacher (more likely) was a moron. They are taught that one should not rely solely on Wikipedia but that Wikipedia can be a good starting point as long as you check their sources. Many times their sources lead to the CIA Factbook that you referenced, or the FBI site, Or a scholarly article. If that can be verified then Wikipedia, if used correctly, can slam ****ing dunk a person using supposed primary source documents.

    Viet Nam....you think those guerrillas we're better than the US forces? Nope....but they knew their land, they had their numbers, and they knew guerrilla tactics better. That's why the US lost Viet Nam.
    Wrong. We lost because of POLITICS. Our Navy SEALS were their worst nightmare. We OWNED them with guerrilla tactics in that regard. We never lost a battle but we lost the war... due to POLITCS. Any half educated person knows this.

    I've studied history in college because at one time I was going to be a history teacher
    That's great, but perhaps you should have attended a history class as well...

    And just a bit of advice, when you are getting completely and utterly ****ing owned as you clearly are... drop the arrogant attitude because it only makes you sound like an imbecile.
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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    You are categorically and comprehensively incorrect. This may be the most brazen example of being wrong I've ever seen on this forum. You equated population figures with military personal. Just drop the mike and walk away for another day pal.
    I clearly pointed this out and he chastised me over it!

    That is entirely incorrect. Breathtakingly so.
    Absolutely...
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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    I like how no one even considers Iraq an ally.
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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Belgium...
    “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”
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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Isra-Hell, hands down.

    An utter disgrace to the 'civilised' world and America's great shame.
    Good thing Isra-Hell isn't the name of an actual country, or this something other than juvenile tittering!
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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Pakistan is hands down the most untrustworthy.
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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Good thing Isra-Hell isn't the name of an actual country, or this something other than juvenile tittering!
    Why, my dear Zionist, I'm every bit as entitled to my perspective as you are to your own.

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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Belgium...
    Belgium was a great place for all the European powers to stop off for a beer on the way to the latest war.
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    re: Which US Ally is the Most Untrustworthy?[W:184:189]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Belgium was a great place for all the European powers to stop off for a beer on the way to the latest war.
    Still is. Only now, they use treaties rather than bullets and bombs.

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