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Thread: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

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    Re: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

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    Re: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    BTW... for those of you who followed the situation in NJ with the court case, I will say that I had a minor role in the case being won. I actually sent some of the information and arguments that I have presented here to a member of Garden State Equality. I believe some were used.
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    Re: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Because the things they do and the laws they pass.

    I would assume.
    I was just wondering why disagreeing with one point of view that Redress supports makes an entire state backwards and messed up in his opinion. Plus, just because any gov't (no matter the level) has allowed any law to be in place that some view as backwards and messed up, doesn't mean the entire population of that state is backwards and messed up as well. For that matter, it doesn't mean the actual gov't is backwards and messed up just because they support one backward and messed up law. I just thought that was a very simplistic and narrow way to look at things and wondered what other laws led to that conclusion. It looks as though Redress doesn't want to tackle the issue. Oh well.
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    Re: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    BTW... for those of you who followed the situation in NJ with the court case, I will say that I had a minor role in the case being won. I actually sent some of the information and arguments that I have presented here to a member of Garden State Equality. I believe some were used.
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    Re: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

    Personally, I think this whole issue is kept alive partially (if not mainly) by politicians who would MUCH rather argue about (and run for re-election on) such trivial matters - as opposed to addressing issues which require thought and making hard choices (ones which will NOT get them re-elected).

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    Re: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I think this whole issue is kept alive partially (if not mainly) by politicians who would MUCH rather argue about (and run for re-election on) such trivial matters - as opposed to addressing issues which require thought and making hard choices (ones which will NOT get them re-elected).

    Yes I called Gay Marriage a trivial matter. Because face it, on a national scale, it IS.
    well i partially agree about politicians keeping it alive, they either want to, or they THINK arguing about social matters like this wins or loses elections, gets money etc

    I do think thats true, its seems that the only logical reason a country like america is still talking about it, how could we not be leading the way instead of being behind on social issues if its not because of what you said.


    as far as calling it trivial, I totally disagree, equal rights is never "trivial" and just making that "statement" is ignorant and selfish, you are better than that. Im sure it also offends many people.

    ALso if your reply is going to continue the fallacy its not an equal rights issue, just save it because that fallacy has been destroyed over and over.

    Now i will admit, it SHOULD be a trivial issue, because equal rights SHOULD have just been granted (maybe this is what you meant, i misunderstood and if so then you are right) . . . . . but since they haven't been granted that immediately makes it not a trivial issue.

    I could list so many reasons that makes it factually not trivial but like i said thats only because its being denied.
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    Re: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

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    I hope it is ours but it will probably be Alabama
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    Re: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I think this whole issue is kept alive partially (if not mainly) by politicians who would MUCH rather argue about (and run for re-election on) such trivial matters - as opposed to addressing issues which require thought and making hard choices (ones which will NOT get them re-elected).

    Yes I called Gay Marriage a trivial matter. Because face it, on a national scale, it IS.
    It's kept alive only because real people want to marry. The issue is dead once it's legal for them to do so, and that is not a very complicated or difficult thing to accomplish. You could make an argument only for the attention it receives, but again, 200,000 people in Chicago alone just won the right to marry. That doesn't seem trivial, especially when state legislature has no responsibility to "national scale." They are not the US senate.

    If it's so important for you to blame anyone, look to the voters, since they created these laws that are being challenged now.

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    Re: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I think this whole issue is kept alive partially (if not mainly) by politicians who would MUCH rather argue about (and run for re-election on) such trivial matters - as opposed to addressing issues which require thought and making hard choices (ones which will NOT get them re-elected).

    Yes I called Gay Marriage a trivial matter. Because face it, on a national scale, it IS.
    Agree that gay marriage is a trivial matter. It isn't trivial because it doesn't matter though. And I don't believe that's what you were saying (if I'm wrong correct me). I think the reason it is trivial is because it's such an easy issue to deal with. It's black or white. Do you support it or not. That's it.

    In addition, it's an easy issue because when it boils down to it the gov't does not have the right to tell people they can't get married. The gov't shouldn't be in the marriage business to begin with. It should be strictly civil unions.

    It's trivial because it only directly affects about 3%-5% of the population. Sure, some on this site will say "Yes, but it affects equal rights." Sure it does. But not everyone's equal rights. That's how America views things now. If it doesn't directly affect the individual, the individual could give a crap less about it.

    Now, dealing with an insolvent Social Security, a train wreck of a healthcare law, the correct strategy to correct our deficit and, in turn, our debt, etc. Those issues actually require compromise, mental agility, an understanding of economics (which most politicians don't have), etc. Our politicians are severely handicapped to deal with these issues because most of them are power hungry, selfish, and vain.
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    Re: What will be the last state to have same sex marriage? [W: 33]

    Honestly couldn't care less. I just hope that one stats perpetually bans it so that I can entertain myself in hyper-ideologues having their heads explode on a semi-frequent basis.

    My guess, as mak suggested, is Utah. Mormons are a humorless bunch. With all the things they ban/disallow, gay marriage wouldn't be close to their radar. You'd have a better chance of getting one of them to have a beer with you.

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