View Poll Results: Does it make sense that people driving more miles pay more tax?

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    Re: Does it make more sense that people driving most, pay the most tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'd be quite happy, personally, if the taxes I pay for licensing my car, my driver's license, the gasoline taxes I pay, etc., all went directly to the maintenance of the roads and infrastructure I utilize on a daily basis and if that meant a more "user pay" formulae, I'd be all for it, with one proviso. Not a single cent of the taxes I pay for all these things car related will be used to fund public transit. Right now, all my taxes go into the government black hole and precious little of it comes back out in the form of roads, bridges, highway maintenance, etc. but a good chunk of it goes to fund public transit.

    If it's going to be "user pay", then the people who ride the buses and subways and LRTs etc. better start ponying up the actual cost of their rides.
    That's true. Much of what the states collect in gasoline taxes goes into the general fund. It ends up paying for other spending. I just read an article the other day that some states because they are in such bad fiscal condition, running out of budget tricks to balance their budgets have gone back to using gravel on roads instead of repaving them. Not only has the federal government exhausted its ability to manage its bills, many states aren't much better. A little fiscal responsibility on both ends would take care of finding the money to upkeep our roads properly.

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    Re: Does it make more sense that people driving most, pay the most tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    If all vehicles had the same degree of fuel efficiency, tracking by miles might make some sense. What, with the larger vehicles using the most gas AND causing the most wear on the highways, such a law isn't fair by basic design.
    Studded tires should be heavily taxed because of how hard they are on the roads, or illegal.

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    Re: Does it make more sense that people driving most, pay the most tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Studded tires should be heavily taxed because of how hard they are on the roads, or illegal.
    Yep.

    I hear that telltale little crunching sound all the time all through winter here despite the fact that the roads are wet rather than icy 99% of the time. I'm sure they come in handy for those trips to Hoodoo or Bachelor, but how often do people do that?
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    Re: Does it make more sense that people driving most, pay the most tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Yep.

    I hear that telltale little crunching sound all the time all through winter here despite the fact that the roads are wet rather than icy 99% of the time. I'm sure they come in handy for those trips to Hoodoo or Bachelor, but how often do people do that?
    I carry chains for when they are needed.

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    Re: Does it make more sense that people driving most, pay the most tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I carry chains for when they are needed.
    Exactly.
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    Re: Does it make more sense that people driving most, pay the most tax?

    It really is a state issue what should be legal or illegal.....certainly not the federal government's business with their one size fits all mentality. I personally find chains hard to use. If I'm planning a trip where winters are harsh like Michigan's UP, there are such things as rubber studded tires.

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    Re: Does it make more sense that people driving most, pay the most tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It really is a state issue what should be legal or illegal.....certainly not the federal government's business with their one size fits all mentality. I personally find chains hard to use. If I'm planning a trip where winters are harsh like Michigan's UP, there are such things as rubber studded tires.
    There are parts of I70 where you will be ordered to chain up or lrave the freeway, during a storm warning without any actual snow on the ground.

    I now carry snow cables for just such occasions.

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    Re: Does it make more sense that people driving most, pay the most tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I am primarily libertarian, but I do agree with a moderate amount of sharing our wealth for the public good.

    Off topic, I am upset that bicyclists are allowed to disregard driving laws, and get preferential treatment. At a minimum, I want them to be required to pay for yearly registration and have a license plate like cars must have, and carry insurance if they ride on the streets.

    I think enough is said on this topic for people reading our disagreement to make up their own minds.
    Yes, bicyclists should follow traffic laws. I do not think they should have to register, have license plates or have insurance.

    The totality of taxes have gone well beyond "moderate" and who pays all the almost uncountably long list of taxes, fees, excise fees, sin-tax fees and other add-ons is mostly the average person, not the wealthy, and the more they are increased the more the hit people on the bottom of the economic ladder. For example, it is unlikely wealthy would drive cross country to visit relatives with their family. Poor folks who can't afford to fly do. That is who this new of endlessly more new taxes would hit.

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    Re: Does it make more sense that people driving most, pay the most tax?

    if everybody stopped using gas, this might be warranted, but not at this point. it would just be one more regressive tax on poor people who have to commute.

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    Re: Does it make more sense that people driving most, pay the most tax?

    Goodness are the powers that be floating this turd again? We had a governor who spent a few million studying that and kept it hush hush. Of course people found out and now old TaxAndGougeMe is no longer governor.

    Look, you just have to vote out the nimrods who suggest such things.

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