View Poll Results: Will you sign up for obamacare

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  • I voted for obama and will sign up

    5 31.25%
  • I voted for obama and will pay the fine

    1 6.25%
  • I didn't vote for obama but will sign up

    2 12.50%
  • I didn't vote for obama and will pay the fine

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    re: For the under 30 crowd in here [W:38]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zariak View Post
    Can you explain what you mean?
    We are giving the Federal government, or more accurately they have taken over a huge part of the economy. It's expensive. Wether you understand this or not, people are the only tax payers in the country. Business doesn't pay tax. They collect tax from people and either turn it over to the government or shelter it so they can keep it. To pay for this huge entitlement and all the other pet projects of our representatives there is only one source of revenue. People.

    To generate the revenue needed to pay for a huge Federal bureaucracy there are two choices. Increase taxes on people or grow the economy. The economy can only grow with a healthy private sector. Increasing taxes on people takes money from the private sector and inhibits growth. Obama's entitlement policies are anti growth, so the only option left to pay for the bureaucracy is taxation.

    The bloated federal government has now created so much debt that the people who created it, will not be alive to pay for it. You my young friend will have to work to pay the debt.

    A trillion dollars seems like just another number, larger than a billion but we can handle it can't we? If we paid off a trillion dollar debt at the rate of a dollar a second, it would take 32,000 years to pay off that debt. We are in debt seventeen trillion dollars. You will spend your life paying off the debt your parents and I racked up and the debt will last after you grow old and die.

    Paying off the debt will not be possible in your lifetime and yet we continually find creative ways to add to it, just like Obamacare. We are exchanging the land of the free and the home of the brave for the land of indentured servants hiding behind the patriot act.

    Good luck with your future.
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    re: For the under 30 crowd in here [W:38]

    So far one young lib has answered the poll. Most kids were probably out partying last night and aren't even up yet so I will let this sit for the day and check back this evening. I really do hope for some honest answers but so far I am only getting dodged. I think the 20's crowd that voted for Obama just does not want to answer this question. I wonder why.

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    re: For the under 30 crowd in here [W:38]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zariak View Post
    well aren't you asking for it?

    You're calling people stupid libs and childish snobs and little babies.

    Get out of my business, dammit, you don't know me.
    I respond to childish comments appropriately and you are obviously a little boy getting insurance from mommy. You have answered my question without trying to.

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    re: For the under 30 crowd in here [W:38]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I am losing my catastrophic insurance because the coverage does not meet obamacare standards so your coverage must not be all that bad. Has your insurance changed in any way? Are your premiums going up at all?
    No, it's pretty abysmal. Honestly, I'd probably do just as well on catastrophic insurance in almost any situation except being diagnosed with an extremely expensive life-long disorder.

    I don't know. My company changes providers every year or two for exactly this reason: there are no insurance companies offering decent coverage to companies whose largest employee segment is young professionals without kids. My company's approach has just been to change it whenever some other provider offers a slight advantage. But if we stay with this provider, no, they aren't changing anything.

    It's entirely possible our provider will change. But that's nothing new, and not related to Obamacare.

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    re: For the under 30 crowd in here [W:38]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So far one young lib has answered the poll. Most kids were probably out partying last night and aren't even up yet so I will let this sit for the day and check back this evening. I really do hope for some honest answers but so far I am only getting dodged. I think the 20's crowd that voted for Obama just does not want to answer this question. I wonder why.
    Perhaps because you left out an option: they will stay with their employer's insurance. That's why I didn't vote. None of your answers suit me.

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    re: For the under 30 crowd in here [W:38]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    We are giving the Federal government, or more accurately they have taken over a huge part of the economy. It's expensive. Wether you understand this or not, people are the only tax payers in the country. Business doesn't pay tax. They collect tax from people and either turn it over to the government or shelter it so they can keep it. To pay for this huge entitlement and all the other pet projects of our representatives there is only one source of revenue. People.

    To generate the revenue needed to pay for a huge Federal bureaucracy there are two choices. Increase taxes on people or grow the economy. The economy can only grow with a healthy private sector. Increasing taxes on people takes money from the private sector and inhibits growth. Obama's entitlement policies are anti growth, so the only option left to pay for the bureaucracy is taxation.

    The bloated federal government has now created so much debt that the people who created it, will not be alive to pay for it. You my young friend will have to work to pay the debt.

    A trillion dollars seems like just another number, larger than a billion but we can handle it can't we? If we paid off a trillion dollar debt at the rate of a dollar a second, it would take 32,000 years to pay off that debt. We are in debt seventeen trillion dollars. You will spend your life paying off the debt your parents and I racked up and the debt will last after you grow old and die.

    Paying off the debt will not be possible in your lifetime and yet we continually find creative ways to add to it, just like Obamacare. We are exchanging the land of the free and the home of the brave for the land of indentured servants hiding behind the patriot act.

    Good luck with your future.
    No need to dumb it down for me, I understand the concepts of economics, debt, and deficit.
    In fact, it seems to me that your concept of how our debt problem can be solved is incorrect.
    American debt is much owed to ourselves. Do you understand this?
    We claim 89 cents to every dollar we owe china. We are not indentured servants to a foreign country.
    Countries can operate with over 100 percent debt. Look at the UK.
    We're in debt now, but are you really feeling like our country is crumbling into economic ruin?

    Also, you failed to mention the correlation between Obama and Obamacare.
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    re: For the under 30 crowd in here [W:38]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I respond to childish comments appropriately and you are obviously a little boy getting insurance from mommy. You have answered my question without trying to.
    I am sorry you are insensitive and know nothing about my background. Please continue your name-calling. I cannot have a civilized debate with you.
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    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: For the under 30 crowd in here [W:38]

    Why no option for "I don't need to sign up?" I have insurance and I'm not alone. Seems like this is yet another dishonest poll.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: For the under 30 crowd in here [W:38]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I know a lib when I read one by their attitude. You are a young lib that won't answer the question in the OP and the reason is you don't want to admit daddy buys your insurance or that you will take the fine.
    You seem to think liberal is a bad word. Not quite sure why and I'm young?

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