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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    In other countries being a teachers are held to a higher standard. People aspire to be teachers, not just fall back on it when all else fails. Thats what we need here
    The last thing this country needs is our teaching populace being held to higher standards.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    If you say so. The fact it was relatively recent means i can remember quite clearly spending hours upon hours just copying by hand whole chapters out of textbooks, as their method of 'education.' But what else can we expect from someone who would rather review football tapes to prepare for his real job of coaching?
    That is my point.

    After 20 years of life rattling around in your head, you can remember the good teachers and all the rest fall away like they never existed.

    If your school years were recent, then all the memories, and your childish opinions and judgements of the teachers, are fresh.

    The truth is that you don't know why the teachers did what they did and you won't understand most of it until you have some life under your belt.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Living in Mexico, I have met quite a few people who work on both sides of the field in both private and public schools. As far as publics go, they are a mess. Teachers get paid to do basically nothing and couldn't care less if kids pass or not. As far as private schools go, teachers are worked like indentured servants without much hope of ever bettering themselves. So essentially, Mexico represents the worst of both worlds.
    So basically, avoid Mexico at all costs. Drugs, cartels, government corruption, and bad schools :P
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    In other countries being a teachers are held to a higher standard. People aspire to be teachers, not just fall back on it when all else fails. Thats what we need here
    Despite what you may have heard, that's what we have here.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Despite what you may have heard, that's what we have here.
    In America, the wrong people aspire to be teachers. When I graduated, I got a degree. When education majors graduate, they get a soapbox and a cross.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    The last thing this country needs is our teaching populace being held to higher standards.
    Hyperbole would leave me to say its like being a Priest without the spiritual benefits and prestige.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    In other countries being a teachers are held to a higher standard. People aspire to be teachers, not just fall back on it when all else fails. Thats what we need here
    No, there is a sense of mission in many teacher colleges and in the schools. It may or may not be felt by individual teacher-candidates or teachers, but it's pretty damn hard not to notice. I'm assuming that in many or most public schools, the beginning of the school year (for the instructors that is) is one or two days of professional aggrandizement (perhaps to get them prepped for the year, before it sucks the life out of them). Then in other settings, say conferences or local and state government issues, you better not upset a teacher by critiquing any sort of common practice. It's not usually a passive matter to them. Sometimes after they get out of conferences, it's sometimes like the after-effects of a Party convention.

    That's not to demean the profession or those that practice it. It's a matter of perspective I developed after being a former client, turned teacher-candidate, turned researcher. Each side (be it student, parent, service provider, advocacy organization, administrator, teacher, politician) in the whole process has its own professional or institutionalized quirks.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    So basically, avoid Mexico at all costs. Drugs, cartels, government corruption, and bad schools :P
    I can't comment on the schools, but I just enjoyed a very nice vacation in the San Miguel De Allende region, one of several areas where many older USA citizens now live. The locals are very nice, mellow people, and the crime rate was relatively low. (people didn't always lock their bikes in public places) Not all of Mexico is the same.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I can't comment on the schools, but I just enjoyed a very nice vacation in the San Miguel De Allende region, one of several areas where many older USA citizens now live. The locals are very nice, mellow people, and the crime rate was relatively low. (people didn't always lock their bikes in public places) Not all of Mexico is the same.
    Granted.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    The last thing this country needs is our teaching populace being held to higher standards.
    im not talking about standardization, im talking about actually making their job worth while. You can almost make more on welfare in some places than you get from working as a teacher.
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