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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    I don't necessarily believe that raises handed out to current teachers would result in enhanced performance, but wage hikes in the field in general would likely do much to lure brighter minds away from more lucrative fields.
    Do we really need brighter minds though?

    At the end of the day, first grade is first grade. I certainly believe more parental involvement would go along way to improving the education of a first grader but I don't know if requiring IQs north of 150 will amount to much.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Centralized but not nationalized. I really want a national curriculum, refreshed every 10 years, where the best educators and scientists in the nation come together and agree on a single base curriculum for every school in the nation so that everyone in 10th grade is learning the same things as everyone else in 10th grade and a kid can leave one school in California and go to a school in Maryland and have the same general thing going on. The problem with the current system is states like Texas and California can hold the entire nation hostage by adopting bizarre school curriculums. Take the current Texas stupidity. Because of their textbook buying power, they can essentially screw up the education of many other states. Luckily, all 14 textbook publishers have told Texas where they can shove their new curriculum, which is a good thing. Now Texas can't get textbooks that reflect their idiotic ideas.
    I understand. You want standardized people, like how Canada required all their Indigenous (Indian) children taken from their parents and put in schools so they could be forced to be taught the history, values, and education that white people think they should be so they can be like white people too. To you, that was the perfect attitude towards education. Outlaw any divergence from government dictated education.

    I understand you totally despise individuality - obviously - either for teachers or students, and that everyone in the country ultimately should have 100% the same knowledge, 100% the same lack of knowledge, and everyone think, act and look alike. Certainly, all foreign accents should be eliminated and any usage of foreign language. As you said, a single education so everyone in the country is taught (and not taught) the same thing. That all of allowed human accumulated knowledge the government dictates and prohibits is no more than maybe 3000 pages.

    I totally, absolutely disagree with your view that schools should all be 100% identical basically federal child internment camps for national government prescribed education and indoctrination - and ANY teacher who teaches outside the Federal book immediately fired.

    Texas has no manner to force any other school district to buy or not buy 1 book. Every state buys so many books they all could negotiate a volume book price if they want too. There are more than 14 publishers in the USA. Texas could get any books it really wants to.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    How about this?

    American teachers will be paid as much as teachers in China? Chinese students do much better in testing.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    The folks wanting teachers to be paid vastly more than other people never, ever have ANYTHING to prove what they claim, nothing.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    18 in some states.
    And that makes it even tougher on the teacher...
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    How about this?

    American teachers will be paid as much as teachers in China? Chinese students do much better in testing.
    They aren't even in the top 34. The USA is 14th.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    The better colleges pay their instructors more and get better results. There is no reason to think that the same wouldn't happen with public K-12 schools if handled correctly. Many people opt out of teaching because they can get better pay (and working conditions) elsewhere. Higher pay will generate more candidates for teaching positions, allowing schools the ability to choose only the better ones.
    The better colleges are also highly selective but I don't know that their professors are actually paid more. Either way, I suspect Harvard's average GPA would drop substantially if they dropped their standards to that of the average community college.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    A teacher is only as functional as their oversight. Incomp boss, lazy teacher.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Considering the best teachers I've had are without exception making $100k+ as professors, and how lousy and poorly compensated my K-12 teachers were, I'd say there's definitely a correlation. But also understand, there aren't enough PhD's to go around teaching K-12, if they're even willing to do that. Raising pay but keeping the same teachers isn't going to solve much.
    So every K-12 teacher you had was terrible and every college profesor you had was great?

    I find that hard to believe.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    So every K-12 teacher you had was terrible and every college profesor you had was great?

    I find that hard to believe.
    In terms of knowing what the hell they're talking about, yes. I have some respect for the ones in the early years for keeping us out of trouble, but the point of education is not day care, or at least it shouldn't be.

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