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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I agree with this.

    Think the movie Back To School with Rodney Dangerfield in the business class.
    I almost included that reference. It's a funny scene, but it's also true. That pompous instructor had no clue what happens in the real world.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zariak View Post
    I'm personally disappointed with how much our educators make. IMO, they should be starting at around 100K salaries, with the due education, of course.

    But, there's always the nagging thought in my head that tells me there might not even be any correlation between education quality and teacher pay.

    I think we can all agree that our education system needs fixing. What do you think?
    I agree to a point. I like to think of it like you might think of a part time job at Walmart, you're not going to do a very good job because they don't pay you enough to care. On the other hand, I don't think the teachers who only have an associates, or a bachelor's degree in something like American History teaching middle school and high school classes should be making 100k a year. I'm a software engineer (fresh out of school albeit) and I don't come close to that, yet my profession is arguably much harder and requires a far more in depth working knowledge of the subject matter.

    I guess what I'm saying is, yes they should be paid more, however they shouldn't be paid more than people who have harder more technical degrees/professions (depending on the field of study). Of course, someone teaching chemistry, physics, or some kind of advanced math would merit a higher salary than an English teacher (but god knows we need a better educational standard in this field for sure).
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that higher pay will attract more candidates for the job, allowing schools to be choosier about who they hire.
    I agree with that... just not the part I addressed.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I agree with this.

    Think the movie Back To School with Rodney Dangerfield in the econimics class.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    A boss of mine once said, "Those who can't, teach."
    Everybody "can" do something... stupid statement. Stupid boss? I don't know.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    The thing is, if a teacher wants a higher salary there is a wide range of schools just throughout the US, some public, some not. Mobility requires skill, experience and education. But there is a higher range available in that job market.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Before the advent of the Department of Education which has evolved into a Union office for the NEA, the USA ranked near the top in spending per student and test score averages.

    Following that and in a pretty well documented progression, the spending has increased over that of the other industrialized countries and the test performance has declined relative to the rest of the world.

    It is very supportable that the spending per student is not a corollary to the quality of the education that is taken away by the student. Even domestically, the average parochial school and private school student costs less to educate, but scores higher on the tests that peg the result of the education.

    Increasing the cost of anything does not automatically increase the quality of that thing.

    You are a victim of liberalism and the resulting mind set. We need to work smarter, not bigger.

    As the distance between the spending decision and the decision maker increases, the effectiveness of that decision decreases.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Teachers in this country are extremely overpaid.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Personally the moral precepts of teachers is wearing thin with me. They are no more moral than anyone else and I am tired of many trying to prop them up as being superior above us all. In my state I often find them to be a greedy bunch of son of a b!tches. Their unions protect their sorry arses when they don't perform adequately. And if you want to remove one from our school districts it takes years of legal battles and lots of money on the taxpayer's dime to do so from kindergarten to universities. My state gives out Cadillac healthcare plans to teachers along with other benefits. Their spouses often don't bother with healthcare from their employment because the coverage under a teacher, here, is so sweet. Personally I am tired of this phony precept that somehow teachers deserve such special treatment. If the teacher is worth their weight then pay them well...if not show them the door

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zariak View Post
    I'm personally disappointed with how much our educators make. IMO, they should be starting at around 100K salaries, with the due education, of course.

    But, there's always the nagging thought in my head that tells me there might not even be any correlation between education quality and teacher pay.

    I think we can all agree that our education system needs fixing. What do you think?
    Look at successful policies that have worked around the world. Mostly, these other countries treat their teachers with respect, and trust that they should have a hand in policy decisions within the school since they do actually work with children for a living. Why would anyone want someone who doesn't have a clue calling the shots? It's illogical.

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