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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The supply of teachers is cyclical. When I started out, back in '66, there was a severe shortage, which was a good thing from my point of view. Now, there are more teachers than jobs. There have been several shortages and over supplies over the years.
    Other than the subjects mentioned above, I can't remember the last teacher shortage.

    As long as some emotionally stunted 22 year old blonde wants to live vicariously through her alma mater, you'll have a grade school teacher waiting.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Other than the subjects mentioned above, I can't remember the last teacher shortage.

    As long as some emotionally stunted 22 year old blonde wants to live vicariously through her alma mater, you'll have a grade school teacher waiting.
    if that's the kind of teacher the school wants to hire, sure.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    if that's the kind of teacher the school wants to hire, sure.
    Sorry, but the brightest minds don't go into teaching - at least not at the primary level.

    I know this rubs some people wrong, but I don't sugar-coat.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    that's cause the pay sucks so bad.Oh yea, one of my favorite bartenders is an elementary teacher with a masters degree.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Sorry, but the brightest minds don't go into teaching - at least not at the primary level.

    I know this rubs some people wrong, but I don't sugar-coat.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Sorry, but the brightest minds don't go into teaching - at least not at the primary level.

    I know this rubs some people wrong, but I don't sugar-coat.

    That's your unsupported opinion, nothing more.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    that's cause the pay sucks so bad.
    1. I'm good with the monetary pay not being great. Teachers get non-monetary pay as well. Discounts, adulation, and a general populace that think they walk on frickin' water.

    2. There are so many of them. Sorry if I don't think that their pay should defy market forces.

    3. The job is easy. The educational requirements are minimal, they get absurd amounts of time off, and ridiculous other perks that you won't find elsewhere in the professional world.

    Pretty soon, lawyers are going to start bitching about low pay because this nation is getting saturated with them. At that point, maybe they'll go do something less...greasy.

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    It does impact the person you can attract and maintain at that job. It does not necessarily, however, immensely influence the output of the students. We have a problem getting intellectually curious educators due to low salaries and less than desirable social expectations, in addition to the frequently difficult attempt to measurably improve the measured outcome of students. Getting highly qualified instructors (and I mean that in a different sense in comparison to current regulations) and paying them a decent wage does not mean you are going to statistically improve our measured examinations. For that matter, I side with those that say there is likely little you can do to systematically raise the entire student body's measured outcomes.
    Last edited by Fiddytree; 10-28-13 at 04:40 PM.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zariak View Post
    I'm personally disappointed with how much our educators make. IMO, they should be starting at around 100K salaries, with the due education, of course.

    But, there's always the nagging thought in my head that tells me there might not even be any correlation between education quality and teacher pay.

    I think we can all agree that our education system needs fixing. What do you think?
    Generally any job where pay scales to performance generates a greater effort on the part of employees, which would make you think that any organization private or public would gladly incorporate this into their business model -- however, an elaborate science exists which aims to structure the business so that performance peaks while wages drop. The method is applied against many stretches of the public sector, education included.
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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I voted no, but if teacher unions were broke up and all were paid on a performance scale I might have voted yes
    Please explain how the student's aptitude for learning and/or his or her desire to learn has anything to do with and thereby should be considered the predicate for, compensation of the teacher?

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    Re: Do you think there is a correlation between teacher pay and quality of education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    3. The job is easy. The educational requirements are minimal, they get absurd amounts of time off, and ridiculous other perks that you won't find elsewhere in the professional world.
    You obviously have no clue at all, none whatsoever, just what it takes to be a successful teacher.
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