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  • Hardship Argument

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The marketplace is an activity. Activities are based on motivations.
    Why would I want to sell something if not for self interested financial gain?
    You do realize that wanting to profit from an activity doesn't prove greed, right? Unless you can show that every man that runs a business has an excessive desire to acquire wealth you have no case.

    Btw, you should look into the origins of capitalism and tell me how those men were greedy. Have fun with that.
    Last edited by Henrin; 10-27-13 at 11:44 AM.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    That is really twisted immoral logic.
    I believe you know that, but you are just trying to make a self interested point.
    I know nothing of the sort. My answer was an answer respecting property and being against pillaging the treasury for favors.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I heard Arthur Laffer explain why so many uber rich were "liberals". he said there were two basic reasons

    1) billionaires gain wealth trading with other wealthy entities. a government that has more and more money is such an entity

    2) the more common and sinister explanation is that the mega rich think they can run the government and a leftwing government is more controlling than a libertarian or decentralized federal government. In other words, billionaires figure they will have more controls over others if government is bigger
    When one studies the life and history of some of these people, George Soros for example, it's difficult to refute what you posted.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Good tax planning can be packaged to look many different ways. What is the motivation of the billionaires who have re-manufactured the Progressive Movement?
    So you are dismissing Bill Gates' altruistic generosity as just writing off good tax planning?
    That is so typically cynical of you.
    Billionaires who support the progressive movement need not have any more self interested gains than the middle class guy with the same political slant. You know that but your cynical greed motivated mind won't let you come to terms with it.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    So you are dismissing Bill Gates' altruistic generosity as just writing off good tax planning?
    That is so typically cynical of you.
    Billionaires who support the progressive movement need not have any more self interested gains than the middle class guy with the same political slant. You know that but your cynical greed motivated mind won't let you come to terms with it.
    why are you so desirous to attribute greed to those who want to become wealthy through their own enterprise but so reticent to attribute greed to those who want to gain wealth through public office by buying the votes of people like you with the money of the first group?

    and why do you ignore the sins of jealousy and envy that motivate so much of the rich bashing from the left?



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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I know nothing of the sort. My answer was an answer respecting property and being against pillaging the treasury for favors.
    Riiiight...

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Riiiight...
    Why must you reveal the obvious? Of course, I'm right. That was already a given.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why are you so desirous to attribute greed to those who want to become wealthy through their own enterprise but so reticent to attribute greed to those who want to gain wealth through public office by buying the votes of people like you with the money of the first group?

    and why do you ignore the sins of jealousy and envy that motivate so much of the rich bashing from the left?
    I don't. Greed is a great motivator to attain many stations in life, wealth is a great carrot.
    I don't necessarily condemn greed as a motivator I am just willing to do what you all seem to want to deny... I recognize the reality of the situation. Greed does not become evil until it is the only motivator in ones life... Like the Kochs.
    Let's look at the Walton family ...They pour billions into campaigns to keep their workers from getting any raise in the minimum wage they must pay their employees. Not one penny. The family is worth 150 BILLION. How much can you hope to spend on yourself in one lifetime?
    If that ain't pure greed you tell me what you think it is.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    So you are dismissing Bill Gates' altruistic generosity as just writing off good tax planning?
    That is so typically cynical of you.
    Billionaires who support the progressive movement need not have any more self interested gains than the middle class guy with the same political slant. You know that but your cynical greed motivated mind won't let you come to terms with it.
    Cynical? Naw. Truthful. Why let the goverment confiscate billions upon ones death, when one can become immortalized by buildings and other such memorials, for eternity via a non-profit foundation?

    Middle class guys with the same political slant dont create think tanks, fund websites, and place their agenda in classrooms across the country, like the billionaires who define what you're suppose to believe, and instruct you on how to act.

    Fortunately for them, there are those who need such mentors to give them purpose, since it's apparent they have been uable to discover that themselves.

    Of course, the typical insult only proves how indoctrinated Progressive are.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why must you reveal the obvious? Of course, I'm right. That was already a given.
    Sorry I forgot that to understand sarcasm one must possess the ability to empathize with another's point of view.
    I'll try not to let that happen again. It's easy to forget I am sadly dealing with someone with such a disability.

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