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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    You left off equality.

    If we all live in the same country, with the same government, then why should some have to pay a higher percentage in taxes than others? Also, why should others directly benefit (other than employees and retirees who earned it as compensation for labor) from Tax moneys while others receive little or nothing?
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    You left off equality.

    If we all live in the same country, with the same government, then why should some have to pay a higher percentage in taxes than others? Also, why should others directly benefit (other than employees and retirees who earned it as compensation for labor) from Tax moneys while others receive little or nothing?
    If I'm going to be paying a higher % then I expect to enjoy the perks my higher class is entitled to: such as exclusive life boats on certin "unsinkable" ships.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    When taxes are cut the entire nation suffers.
    Taxes need to go up.
    Especially for the wealthiest and big corporations.
    You mean the lazy ass people suffer, people that have worked all their lives excel

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    You left off equality.

    If we all live in the same country, with the same government, then why should some have to pay a higher percentage in taxes than others? Also, why should others directly benefit (other than employees and retirees who earned it as compensation for labor) from Tax moneys while others receive little or nothing?
    A safe environment benefits wealthy people disproportionately. Poor people don't get robbed. They have nothing to rob. Poor people really don't need the benefit of an orderly society. Wealthy people could not accumulate wealth in an chaotic environment. They would continue losing it to theft. Government is much more valuable to a wealthy individual.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I never advocated any such thing. I merely want to acknowledge that greed is the primary motivator in the market place. Most who worship at the alter of the free market /sarc/ will never recognize that greed is the primary motivational factor. They refuse to accept that reality.
    do you also realize envy in a motivator?

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The opposite effect was that he spent to an unprecedented degree (Iraq Medicare B etc) .)
    That's not what you have said. You said that the tax cuts had the effect of decreasing revenues. Which is not the case. Revenues were going up - and spending was going up faster. Which is what I have said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    BTW no matter how much the numbers were jiggered there would have been no paying down of the debt if the taxes on the wealthy weren't raised by Clinton.
    Sure there would be - the dot-com boom brought in a tsunami of revenue. And spending was constrained by the "gridlock" - not constrained enough, unfortunately. And while income taxes had been modestly raised under Clinton (from 36% on the top to 39%), capital gains taxes - i.e. the category most relevant here - had been actually slashed: maximum rate on long-term gains was 29.19 in 1995 - and 21.19 after 1996. That's a very big drop.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    (cont. from # 116)

    Also, 1997, the "death tax" (estate tax) exemption was raised from $600,000 to $1,000,000. And limits for deductible IRAs had been sharply increased.

    All three measures favoring "the rich" disproportionally, as you understand.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    A safe environment benefits wealthy people disproportionately. Poor people don't get robbed. They have nothing to rob. Poor people really don't need the benefit of an orderly society. Wealthy people could not accumulate wealth in an chaotic environment. They would continue losing it to theft. Government is much more valuable to a wealthy individual.

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    that is moronic. Most crime is directed at lower income people. Wealthy people can hire guards. GOvernment keeps the poor from being serfs. Read up on feudal times. The lords were the law. serfs were hunted for sport



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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is moronic. Most crime is directed at lower income people. Wealthy people can hire guards. GOvernment keeps the poor from being serfs. Read up on feudal times. The lords were the law. serfs were hunted for sport
    I don't have a problem with that. Your logic sounds reasonable.

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    Re: What is your favorite argument against higher taxes?

    No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity, which seems to be the current administration's goal.
    "Only the dead have seen the end of war..." -Plato

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