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    Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Naughty Nuns, Bad Bankers and Ballot Bandits

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    "On May 6, 2008, 12 fraudulent voters, dressed as nuns, attempted to cast ballots in the presidential primary in Indiana.Luckilyof them were caught, stopped cold by Indiana's new voter photo ID law. The law had been found to be constitutional by Federal Judge Richard Posner of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals.
    It turns out the nuns that Posner's ruling turned away were, in fact, nuns. All the sisters had photo driver's licenses, but they had expired (the licenses, not the nuns). The Sisters of the Holy Cross, had, mercifully, given up driving (they were pushing 90 years of age.)
    It was a cute story that ran nationwide. What wasn't so cute, and ran nowhere in the US press, was that 72,000 black voters were blocked at the polls by this Posner-blessed photo ID law."
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    In his newly released autobiography, the aging Posner, hearing the wings of mortality and the gavel of Judgment Day coming down, admits that he was stone cold wrong. Posner now concedes that that the voter ID rule was a Republican partisan ploy in intent and viciously racist in practice.
    Posner, seeking forgiveness, says it wasn't his fault. He wasn't "really given strong indications that requiring additional voter identification would actually disfranchise people [who are] entitled to vote.""

    Are these really Jim Crow laws?

    Is this a voter disenfranchisement scheme?

    Are these type laws partisan?

    Excepting graveyards voting for LBJ in the 1960s, has this been a problem?

    How many cases of voter fraud have been prosecuted in your neighborhood?
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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Naughty Nuns, Bad Bankers and Ballot Bandits

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    Naughty Nuns, Bad Bankers and Ballot Bandits

    "On May 6, 2008, 12 fraudulent voters, dressed as nuns, attempted to cast ballots in the presidential primary in Indiana.Luckilyof them were caught, stopped cold by Indiana's new voter photo ID law. The law had been found to be constitutional by Federal Judge Richard Posner of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals.
    It turns out the nuns that Posner's ruling turned away were, in fact, nuns. All the sisters had photo driver's licenses, but they had expired (the licenses, not the nuns). The Sisters of the Holy Cross, had, mercifully, given up driving (they were pushing 90 years of age.)
    It was a cute story that ran nationwide. What wasn't so cute, and ran nowhere in the US press, was that 72,000 black voters were blocked at the polls by this Posner-blessed photo ID law."
    "
    In his newly released autobiography, the aging Posner, hearing the wings of mortality and the gavel of Judgment Day coming down, admits that he was stone cold wrong. Posner now concedes that that the voter ID rule was a Republican partisan ploy in intent and viciously racist in practice.
    Posner, seeking forgiveness, says it wasn't his fault. He wasn't "really given strong indications that requiring additional voter identification would actually disfranchise people [who are] entitled to vote.""

    Are these really Jim Crow laws?

    Is this a voter disenfranchisement scheme?

    Are these type laws partisan?

    Excepting graveyards voting for LBJ in the 1960s, has this been a problem?

    How many cases of voter fraud have been prosecuted in your neighborhood?

    How many cases of What.....Voter Fraud? Whats That.....No Such thing In Chicago and Illinois. Democrats rule here doncha knows.

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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    How many cases of What.....Voter Fraud? Whats That.....No Such thing In Chicago and Illinois. Democrats rule here doncha knows.
    Great red herring

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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    In some cultures, people believe that taking a photograph of your face steals your soul. Representatives of these cultures who happen to be American citizens will be severely disenfranchised.

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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    I have no problem with voter ID laws as long as the default position is allowing people to vote. Then, if it was fraudlent, arrest them and max out their sentence. The real issue isnt that the Republicans care a hoot about it, they too know there is really very little fraudlent voting, the thing is most of the people who have ID issues vote democrat. So it really is a RW attempt to stop Demo voters.
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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Great red herring
    Pickled after over 75 years of it.....huh? "What".....ya don't like herring that ****, huh?

    Shame.....the left needs to start hearing it more. Guess what.....They going to and a whole lot more. Might as well prepare to get use to it.
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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    I honestly believe that the intent of these laws is to do partisan disenfranchisement. It can be used by Repubs or Dems and is about who is controlling local politics. It would be disproportionately biased against low income voters. The 10 nuns are an excellent example of flawed law. I also worry about corrupted code in the electronic voting process. Let's address that before we disenfranchise.

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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I have no problem with voter ID laws as long as the default position is allowing people to vote. Then, if it was fraudlent, arrest them and max out their sentence. The real issue isnt that the Republicans care a hoot about it, they too know there is really very little fraudlent voting, the thing is most of the people who have ID issues vote democrat. So it really is a RW attempt to stop Demo voters.
    Really Mak.....even after ID's were made and at no cost. You mean Free identification.....was just to go and pick on people who vote Democrat. First it was about money.....now when given some more free ****. The reason is all because the Republicans know they vote Democrat.

    Do you think all those refugees we take in that are spread out all over the country. Might have a piece of that action you are talking about? How about those that come in on workers permits and student visas? You know.....the people that the Democrats want to increase on in numbers.

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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    most of the people who have ID issues vote democrat.
    But WHY do they have ID issues? How difficult is it to get an ID? Certainly easier than to figure out who to vote for, or what some Proposal XYZ, version 13 on the ballot even means.

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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    I have no issue with the laws themselves, but think they should only exist if there is a free government photo ID available in that state. However, if no such avenue exists then I believe it's unreasonable as it essentially demands payment for the ability to vote.

    I also question the notions regarding the low number of voter fraud, as they generally look at provable instances of voter fraud while ignoring that based on the current requirements I'm unsure how plausible the notion of "proving" various types of fraud on a wide scale basis is.

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