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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I go out and jog at lunch all the time in shorts, socks, shoes, a shirt, and no papers. If a police officer contacts me in the performance of his duties I do have a responsiblity to identify myself. As long as I do honestly, no problem. If I lie I can be leagally charged with false ID or some such charge. the same should be true with voting. As a rule I always have ID, but there are exceptions. Same should be true with voters.
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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    You are kidding right? If I dont have my papers, am I not an American?
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    But not having your license with you is not the same as not having a license at all. Try again.
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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    No it isn't it a reasonable requirement to vote, to prove you are who you say you are.

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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    No it isn't it a reasonable requirement to vote, to prove you are who you say you are.
    There's absolutely nothing wrong with people proving their eligibility to vote before they cast their ballot. What's wrong in instituting new rules targeting specific groups, making it uniquely inconvenient and/or expensive for members of their groups to vote because they are likely to vote in a manner the rule makers don''t like all under the cleaver guise of "fighting voter fraud" when sworn testimony from the group indicated they planned in advance how to keep that group away from the polls.
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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    I have no problem with a voter ID requirement under 2 conditions.

    1) They're free of charge.

    2) Warrant checks are outlawed at places that issue the ID cards.

    Here in Ohio the only place where you can obtain an official state ID is at the DMV. And all of the branches of the DMV where they give drivers license examinations are staffed by police officers. If you go to one of these places to get an ID and you have a warrant, even if it is for some small fine you couldn't pay a decade ago, you're not getting any ID. You're getting arrested on the spot and going directly to jail, period. I've seen it happen.

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    I think it is pretty obvious that doing warrant checks when people try to get an ID to vote disenfranchises the poor who are much more likely to be unable to pay a fine.
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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    There's absolutely nothing wrong with people proving their eligibility to vote before they cast their ballot. What's wrong in instituting new rules targeting specific groups, making it uniquely inconvenient and/or expensive for members of their groups to vote because they are likely to vote in a manner the rule makers don''t like all under the cleaver guise of "fighting voter fraud" when sworn testimony from the group indicated they planned in advance how to keep that group away from the polls.


    The amazing thing is how spun up people get over ID for voting when ID will be critical for those now eligible for free or supplimented Obamacare.

    Do you actually think anyone without some form of accurate, verifiable identification will be able to get Rx and other medical care without absolutely proving who they are?

    Since accurate ID will be critical to avoid killing a patient, do you think a "cross my heart, I'm John Doe" is going to suffice?

    Talk about ginning up the crowd with a bogus narrative.

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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    There's absolutely nothing wrong with people proving their eligibility to vote before they cast their ballot. What's wrong in instituting new rules targeting specific groups, making it uniquely inconvenient and/or expensive for members of their groups to vote because they are likely to vote in a manner the rule makers don''t like all under the cleaver guise of "fighting voter fraud" when sworn testimony from the group indicated they planned in advance how to keep that group away from the polls.
    It is honestly not that hard to get I.D.. If it is really that much of an issue just institute a national I.D..

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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That is a minimal cost for something that you only have to do once in your entire life, unless you happen to lose it, then it's your responsibility to replace it.

    You can mostly have me on that up until somewhere in the high $20 range, if we are talking in terms of something as important as voting. When I get nervous it is in that $20+ range, because you don't really want to make it largely prohibitive to the folks that could legitimately vote.

    Again, my perspective comes more or less outside, because we don't have voter registration, we don't see the need for it, we have a pretty liberal voting policy, which until recently has caused absolutely no commotion. Our ID is a whopping $6-less than what it can cost at Burger King for a meal.

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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    It is honestly not that hard to get I.D.. If it is really that much of an issue just institute a national I.D..
    Thus far all discussions surrounding a national ID have been cost-prohibitive, and a bureaucratic mess.
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    Re: Is requiring voter photo ID a type of disenfranchisement?

    I am opposed to this photo ID idea because it's the GOP's idea.

    They are not pushing this to make elections fair, the idea is to disenfranchise Democratic Party voters.




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