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    Re: Should the Big Bankers and Wall Street execs get jail time?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    What specific laws did he break and what evidence do you have that would stand up in court to support your accusations?

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    Re: Should the Big Bankers and Wall Street execs get jail time?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    What specific laws did he break and what evidence do you have that would stand up in court to support your accusations?

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    Re: Should the Big Bankers and Wall Street execs get jail time?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    That is civil charges involving the bank. Where is your evidence that Mr. Dimon was criminally responsible for anything?

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    Re: Should the Big Bankers and Wall Street execs get jail time?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    not really. once a cheat is exposed as a cheat, his ability to cheat others is greatly diminished

    liberals often demand jail time in order to appease the butt hurt feelings of violent street crime supporters
    Actually it seems some of us are serious about crime while others only try to protect their fellow gang members.
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    Re: Should the Big Bankers and Wall Street execs get jail time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    So let me restate since I apparently didn't such a good job first time around. Guys who show a willingness to to illegally perpetrate violence, for the safety of society, can only be effectively dealt with by incarceration. The same cannot be said for non violent offenders, be the drug users, petty thieves or white collar criminals.
    You obviously have a double standard.... one for small time crooks with big time punishment and another for big time crooks with a hand slap.
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    Re: Should the Big Bankers and Wall Street execs get jail time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Assets aren't. Again while he's not in jail he can earn an income, which may well be substantial enough to repay part of his debt to the people he cheated.
    How in the hell is Madoff suppose to EARN AN INCOME even if out of jail?
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    Re: Should the Big Bankers and Wall Street execs get jail time?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually it seems some of us are serious about crime while others only try to protect their fellow gang members.
    yeah that is true

    for years left wing democrats have done all that is possible to excuse minority street crime because the minorities who produce so many street criminals tend to vote Democrat at huge ratios-often 9X dem for every GOP vote



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    Re: Should the Big Bankers and Wall Street execs get jail time?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How in the hell is Madoff suppose to EARN AN INCOME even if out of jail?
    do you believe he has a better chance at paying some restitution while in jail?



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    Re: Should the Big Bankers and Wall Street execs get jail time?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah that is true

    for years left wing democrats have done all that is possible to excuse minority street crime because the minorities who produce so many street criminals tend to vote Democrat at huge ratios-often 9X dem for every GOP vote
    I have been a Democrat for my entire adult life and have never seen anyone in the party leadership excuse street crime because it was committed by minorities.... let alone "have done all that is possible" But feel free to present some verifiable evidence of this allegation and claim.
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    Re: Should the Big Bankers and Wall Street execs get jail time?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you believe he has a better chance at paying some restitution while in jail?
    You told us yesterday that once a crook like this is exposed, nobody else will fall prey to his game. If that is true, how is Madoff suppose to "pay restitution" is given the chance to stay out of jail?

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    I stated this

    I would imagine lots of rich crooks would feel that way since it leaves them free to try and do it again.
    you countered with this
    not really. once a cheat is exposed as a cheat, his ability to cheat others is greatly diminished
    So who is going to do business with a guy like Madoff who has been exposed as a cheat so he can earn tens or hundreds of millions of dollars to pay back restitution and stay out of jail?

    And as a trained attorney and officer of the court you fully realize that this very suggestions sets up two very different and unequal standards of justice - one for rich people who can financially "pay for their crimes" with money or the prospect of it and a far more restrictive type of justice for the rest of us who will do hard time and hope that our cell mate does not take a liking to our pretty mouth. And as an attorney and officer of the court I would hope you see the fundamental problem in those two different standards.
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