View Poll Results: Should US Navy and military do more about pirate attacks off Africa?

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  • Maybe, but only in response to pirate attacks.

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Thread: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Ships should have enough armed men to ward off these attacks in small boats, ridiculous
    If more of these pirates died attempting to take a cargo vessel fewer would do the job.
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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I can't tell if this is sarcasm. If it is... well done. If not... WTF?
    I thought the comparison to welfare areas in the US would give it away. Anyone familiar with even a few of my post would recognize it as sarcasm coming from me.
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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Keeping the seas open is different from policing other nations internally. The USA has an interest in keeping the oceans open and safe.

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    people you wonder why we are in dept! its because we are always so busy policing the world and trying to spreed democracy but what we don't seem to release is that sometimes a dictator is needed. I mean ok alot of these guys are bad, bad guys who need to answer for their crimes, but when the peoples fear of them is the only thing holding countries together. If they dont exist, these countries will deteriorate into another Egypt, another Syria.

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I thought the comparison to welfare areas in the US would give it away. Anyone familiar with even a few of my post would recognize it as sarcasm coming from me.
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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    I saw the movie about the pirate attack, and it was scary.

    However, there is a simple solution:

    The ship and crew involved were completely unarmed. That is how 4 Somali pirates in a tiny boat were able to board and take over the huge vessel. If the crew had as little as just a few rifles, it could have held them off, and likely finished them off for good.

    Having our Navy do it is very expensive and can miss a lot of pirate attacks.

    Solution: Any ships that might even get close to pirate waters (Somalia and Nigeria in particular), should arm themselves--rifles, shotguns, even a machine gun or two and some RPG's. Whenever pirates come, blow them out of the water. Pretty soon, there won't be any pirates left, and the problem is solved.

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I didn't see an option for "Allow the civilian vessels to arm themselves with light weapons".


    That would be my answer.



    Some are already hiring mercenaries... erm, I mean private security consultants....
    Agreed but its very difficult to make happen in practice. Putting arms on a vessel dramatically raises maritime and employee insurance costs and makes it very difficult to put your ship into harbor as most countries will not allow you to dock with weapons on board. Realistically you would need an international convention to make this workable on a large scale. That leaves the Navy as the course of action.

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    I saw the movie about the pirate attack, and it was scary.

    However, there is a simple solution:

    The ship and crew involved were completely unarmed. That is how 4 Somali pirates in a tiny boat were able to board and take over the huge vessel. If the crew had as little as just a few rifles, it could have held them off, and likely finished them off for good.

    Having our Navy do it is very expensive and can miss a lot of pirate attacks.

    Solution: Any ships that might even get close to pirate waters (Somalia and Nigeria in particular), should arm themselves--rifles, shotguns, even a machine gun or two and some RPG's. Whenever pirates come, blow them out of the water. Pretty soon, there won't be any pirates left, and the problem is solved.
    Really difficult to enact in practice. Just to copy what I had put earlier: Putting arms on a vessel dramatically raises maritime and employee insurance costs and makes it very difficult to put your ship into harbor as most countries will not allow you to dock with weapons on board and you cant exactly ditch them over the side when you reach your destination. Realistically you would need an international convention to make this workable on a large scale.

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    people you wonder why we are in dept! its because we are always so busy policing the world and trying to spreed democracy but what we don't seem to release is that sometimes a dictator is needed. I mean ok alot of these guys are bad, bad guys who need to answer for their crimes, but when the peoples fear of them is the only thing holding countries together. If they dont exist, these countries will deteriorate into another Egypt, another Syria.

    You write the same posts all over the board. For someone so concerned about the debt you might as well start spelling it right. DEBT.

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    You write the same posts all over the board. For someone so concerned about the debt you might as well start spelling it right. DEBT.

    A. Its an important issue with me.
    B. my computer keeps auto-correcting it to dept.

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