View Poll Results: Should US Navy and military do more about pirate attacks off Africa?

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  • Maybe, but only in response to pirate attacks.

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That is outrageous and makes my point. Companies can expose their employees to defenseless violent danger and be totally immune, but are liable if employees are armed and defend themselves.


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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I voted yes. But under current conditions, where do we get the boats to do it and the leadership that not only has the balls, but the ability to do it.
    Seems like Obama loves him them Drones. A nice clean solution that Fearless Leader already has been paid for. Let's go get 'em.

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That is outrageous and makes my point. Companies can expose their employees to defenseless violent danger and be totally immune, but are liable if employees are armed and defend themselves.
    Their defense is that we are on a US/ISAF military base. We are being defended by those around us....
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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Still staying on topic, a few years ago it was discovered that these pirates in and around the Horn of Africa were using the internet to locate which ships they would target. < Live Ships Map - AIS - Vessel Traffic and Positions >

    It shows live time where most merchant ships are located in the world, their Coordinates, speed and direction and what type of ship it is what flag they are flying etc. Usually with a photo of the ship.

    When they discovered that any pirate with a laptop and access to satellite internet could locate a ship to hijack the word came down probably by the insurance companies not show what ships are in the Red Sea or Horn of Africa waters. If you go to the link above you'll notice they no longer show what ships that are in the area of the Horn of Africa.

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    A few guys with AR-15's and a sniper would surely deter any pirates... one 50 cal with forward shielding would light up any little pirate boat.
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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Don't know if anyone's posted this yet, but the US Navy is doing a good bit to fight piracy.

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Kenya assumed custody March 5, 2009, of seven alleged Somali pirates, captured earlier by the U.S. Navy, with plans to prosecute the suspects swiftly in the Mombasa court system.

    The Navy turned the suspects and evidence over to Kenya under the terms of a memorandum of understanding signed with the United States in January. The United Kingdom has a similar accord with Kenya -- which has agreed to prosecute pirates in its courts -- as part of a stepped-up effort to hold pirates accountable for their actions and deter future attacks in the Gulf of Aden and off the Somali coastline.
    Kenya Accepts Seven Alleged Pirates from U.S. Navy for Trial | United States Africa Command

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Still staying on topic, a few years ago it was discovered that these pirates in and around the Horn of Africa were using the internet to locate which ships they would target. < Live Ships Map - AIS - Vessel Traffic and Positions >

    It shows live time where most merchant ships are located in the world, their Coordinates, speed and direction and what type of ship it is what flag they are flying etc. Usually with a photo of the ship.

    When they discovered that any pirate with a laptop and access to satellite internet could locate a ship to hijack the word came down probably by the insurance companies not show what ships are in the Red Sea or Horn of Africa waters. If you go to the link above you'll notice they no longer show what ships that are in the area of the Horn of Africa.
    Damn you....

    I'll be up all night now playing with that new link you posted. It's addictive!!!

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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Pirates kidnap 2 US sailors off Nigerian coast

    Pirates kidnapped the captain and engineer, both U.S. citizens, from a U.S.-flagged oil supply ship off the coast of Nigeria, sources say.

    ABUJA/LONDON Pirates attacked an oil supply vessel off the Nigerian coast and kidnapped the captain and chief engineer, both U.S. citizens, American officials said on Thursday as the Nigerian military ordered its Navy to rescue the men.

    "We believe this was an act of piracy," U.S. State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said, adding that U.S. officials were closely monitoring the situation and seeking more information.

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    There are hundreds of pirate attacks off the West and East African coast each year. Should the US Navy do more and devote more resources to preventing and responding to pirate attacks? Should the US military attack pirate bases of operation in Africa?
    In this case, I say yes. It's a U.S. (contract) vessel flying the U.S. flag in international waters. Yes, the U.S. Navy should do more. The Constitution all but warrants it. (Art. I, Sec. 8, clause 10). Of course, we could also use more help from the S. African naval forces.
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    Re: Should US Navy do more concerning pirate attacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Damn you....

    I'll be up all night now playing with that new link you posted. It's addictive!!!
    It's pretty cool isn't it. The Somali pirates also thought it was cool. Not any more as you notice.

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