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When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

  • As soon as possible. There are many people that shouldn't be having kids.

    Votes: 7 63.6%

  • Within 50 years. We're not quite ready but we are almost there.

    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • 51-200 years. Some people are so stupid that they think aborition is wrong.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 201-1000 years. This is the most advanced dream of abortionist. It takes lots of time.

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Total voters
    11
  • Poll closed .
Fiddytree said:
You cannot ignore the eugenics connections between social darwinism and lassez faire capitalism, promoted by proto-libertarians like William G. Sumner and others.
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A person can if they want to. A person hold two views doesn't not mean those two views then are philosophically linked.
 
joko104 said:
A person can if they want to. A person hold two views doesn't not mean those two views then are philosophically linked.
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If there is a commonality among a great many (but certainly not all) individuals, and they find the connection between the two, as they did, then yes, it does mean they are philosophically linked for those individuals that accept both of those precepts.

A libertarian can reject eugenics, and a eugenicist may reject libertarianism. Nevertheless, the two can and have met.
 
joko104 said:
Your messages in this thread are common for you. You make some absolute moral declaration as a truism. Then refuse to debate the matter and just flame insults. What that means is that generally you retreated and surrendered, but are angry at the other person for making you do so.

What is absurd in my opinion is your view that a woman's legal right to abortion is the same as a rapists right to procreate by rape - calling both the same right of "choice."
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What's absurd, and highly hypocritical, is your view that a woman has complete control over her body and everything that goes into it or goes on inside it, without exception, but you believe, as you noted above, that certain people, males in the vast majority, whether mentally or physically handicapped or criminal, must have their bodies controlled by you or authorities with your view.

I simply pointed out the idiocy of your hypocrisy - you chose to simply repeat it - I simply said that I had no interest in continuing to debate the idiocy - and you claimed I was retreating. What's not to understand? I didn't insult you or "flame" you - I called your post and conflicting views idiocy. You're free to characterize my views however you please.

Take care and have a good day.
 
Morality Games said:
Plato's authoritarianism compares oddly with your libertarian stances.
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I don't consider Plato to be all that authoritarian. He just recognized a "right to rule" - as I do.

I can never be a "true" libertarian as long as the populace are untermensch.
 
Gipper said:
I don't consider Plato to be all that authoritarian. He just recognized a "right to rule" - as I do.

I can never be a "true" libertarian as long as the populace are untermensch.
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It's so cute when someone's philosophy centers around mistakenly and arrogantly assuming that they're better than everyone else. One more reason why most libertarians are just selfish.
 
Paschendale said:
It's so cute when someone's philosophy centers around mistakenly and arrogantly assuming that they're better than everyone else. One more reason why most libertarians are just selfish.
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Yeah, it's just libertarians.

The reason why socialism and communism never work in practice is because its practitioners tend to shun those who desire to succeed.

Socialism is universal mediocrity.
 
Gipper said:
Yeah, it's just libertarians.

The reason why socialism and communism never work in practice is because its practitioners tend to shun those who desire to succeed.

Socialism is universal mediocrity.
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Depending on the degree of libertarianism someone supports, there is one thing in which that belief is the same as socialism.

Both rely on humans not being human.
 
The Mark said:
Depending on the degree of libertarianism someone supports, there is one thing in which that belief is the same as socialism.

Both rely on humans not being human.
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That's why I'll never be a true "libertarian". I'm too much of a meritocrat, and libertarianism cannot fully thrive in a meritocracy. It assumes equality that isn't there.
 
It looks like the best solution according to our audience is to implement mandatory abortions as soon as possible. Thank you to all 9 participants.

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thanks so much
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Now that the elitist have convinced the American public to accept abortion as a morally reasonable thing to do, the next step is to implement mandatory abortions to those who are unfit to be parents. This was envisioned by Plato as a way to improve the quality of the human species much in the same way that cattle are bred to improve the heard.

The question I have to ask is: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

vasuderatorrent

Below is a quote from Book V of Plato's Republic
Unsolicited Commentary: Plato’s Republic: Book Five



"The second wave regarded the communal rearing of children, closely linked to the breeding of the females by only the best men. Socrates was intent upon destroying any bond that might develop except the bonds of a person to their community. The greatest evil was that which caused factions (462b). To this end he erased the family from the lives of the guardians and auxiliaries. No marriages were to be allowed. The best warriors would be directed to mate periodically with the women and the children of those unions would be raised collectively. Not even the mother would know who her offspring were. Socrates goes so far as to insist that this is the most natural way for our best men and women to procreate and exist together. It is not unlike the fighting dogs or game cocks which Glaucon raises at his home 459a).

It is hard to imagine how this relates to the soul of a human except that, perhaps, we should look closely at the relationships to which we cling. In this light, the argument that the offspring of unwarranted intercourse should be aborted is not quite so hideous."
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You don't have a never option.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
It looks like the best solution according to our audience is to implement mandatory abortions as soon as possible. Thank you to all 9 participants.

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I didn't reply because your longest option only went to 1000 years.

There was no "never" option.

IOW...biased poll is biased.
 
cpgrad08 said:
You don't have a never option.
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That isn't an option. I described that in an earlier post. We have already accepted abortion as morally appropriate. There is only a short time away when government officials will have the sufficient support to implement selective breeding of the human race. Never isn't an option unless you are pro-life. In that case you shouldn't be answering this poll.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
That isn't an option. I described that in an earlier post. We have already accepted abortion as morally appropriate. There is only a short time away when government officials will have the sufficient support to implement selective breeding of the human race. Never isn't an option unless you are pro-life. In that case you shouldn't be answering this poll.
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This isn't even a slippery slope argument, it's a sheer cliff argument.
 
Thanks for a good laugh OP.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
That isn't an option. I described that in an earlier post. We have already accepted abortion as morally appropriate. There is only a short time away when government officials will have the sufficient support to implement selective breeding of the human race. Never isn't an option unless you are pro-life. In that case you shouldn't be answering this poll.
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Never is the only option if you're pro choice. Pro choice means individual choice, not the government choosing for us.
 
Dittohead not! said:
There is a reason it is called "pro choice."
Anti abortion should be called "anti choice."
mandated abortions would also be "anti choice."

Alcohol is legal. Is there a mandatory beer anyone has to drink? Should pot ever be legalized, will we have to smoke it?



The OP is totally absurd.
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we have mandatory healthcare coverage now, Obama has proven the enough stupid people will make anything a reality
 
Rocketman said:
only if one is to slow to make the connection
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Dittohead not! said:
Never is the only option if you're pro choice. Pro choice means individual choice, not the government choosing for us.
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It never was about choice. That's just a scam to recruit dumb soldiers for their ultimate agenda.
 
Dittohead not! said:
There is a reason it is called "pro choice."
Anti abortion should be called "anti choice."
mandated abortions would also be "anti choice."

Alcohol is legal. Is there a mandatory beer anyone has to drink? Should pot ever be legalized, will we have to smoke it?

The OP is totally absurd.
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You must buy health insurance. It's mandatory. I hope you aren't planning a family. Abortions can become mandatory too.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
You must buy health insurance. It's mandatory. I hope you aren't planning a family. Abortions can become mandatory too.
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You don't have to buy health insurance. If you choose not to, you pay a small tax to make up for what your stupidity might cost the rest of us. That seems fair.

and to reiterate: Attempting to outlaw abortions, which would be about as successful as outlawing pot, is government making the decision. Attempting to mandate abortions, which is even less likely in the US, is also government making the decision. Both are authoritarian positions.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
You must buy health insurance. It's mandatory. I hope you aren't planning a family. Abortions can become mandatory too.
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I could just pay the fine instead. Apparently it will be subtracted from my refund.
 
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