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When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

  • 51-200 years. Some people are so stupid that they think aborition is wrong.

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Now that the elitist have convinced the American public to accept abortion as a morally reasonable thing to do, the next step is to implement mandatory abortions to those who are unfit to be parents. This was envisioned by Plato as a way to improve the quality of the human species much in the same way that cattle are bred to improve the heard.

The question I have to ask is: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

vasuderatorrent

Below is a quote from Book V of Plato's Republic
Unsolicited Commentary: Plato’s Republic: Book Five

"The second wave regarded the communal rearing of children, closely linked to the breeding of the females by only the best men. Socrates was intent upon destroying any bond that might develop except the bonds of a person to their community. The greatest evil was that which caused factions (462b). To this end he erased the family from the lives of the guardians and auxiliaries. No marriages were to be allowed. The best warriors would be directed to mate periodically with the women and the children of those unions would be raised collectively. Not even the mother would know who her offspring were. Socrates goes so far as to insist that this is the most natural way for our best men and women to procreate and exist together. It is not unlike the fighting dogs or game cocks which Glaucon raises at his home 459a).

It is hard to imagine how this relates to the soul of a human except that, perhaps, we should look closely at the relationships to which we cling. In this light, the argument that the offspring of unwarranted intercourse should be aborted is not quite so hideous."
 
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I think you missed a step somewhere..... like asking "if" mandatory abortion should be implemented or not.... you went right to "when"

I'm quite certain it has it's fans among the pro-eugenics, pro-abortion crowd.... but I'm gonna say it has a snowballs chance in hell at happening within the next 100 years.

it is my position that it should never happen... but you didn't have a poll option for that
 
it is my position that it should never happen... but you didn't have a poll option for that

That's because this isn't a choice. Elitist are in charge and want to make America stronger. America has already accepted abortion as ok. The next step is mandatory abortions for unfit parents. When the unfit quit breeding this will improve the gene pool thus the quality of life for all. It wasn't my idea. This is a vision of the smartest people in our country. Plato envisioned a Republic that was ruled by the most intelligent class of people rather than the elected class which he despised. Unless you have the highest IQ in the country it doesn't matter what you think.

vasuderatorrent
 
I'm a meritocrat who believes in Platonic rule, and the concept of the philosopher-king was designed so that the enlightened class was designed to help people from self-destruction through benevolent choices unable to be seen by the general populace. He didn't have disdain for the common folk.
 
In the past, the United States skipped that step and either encouraged birth control or mandated sterilization provided if you met certain ambiguous criteria.

I'm not eager to go back to that policy. Even the most neo-eugenic of folks promote the notion that it needs to be more or less a case of moral suasion rather than an instituted policy.
 
Now that the elitist have convinced the American public to accept abortion as a morally reasonable thing to do, the next step is to implement mandatory abortions to those who are unfit to be parents.

Noone has convinced the public that is is the "morally reasonable" thing to do. It is simply the LEGAL thing to do. Legality does not equate to moral by legality alone. All abortion being legal has done is ticked off those that want control over women and FORCE them to carry to term while enduring physical and mental changes to their bodies.

Didn't vote in the poll because:

#1 The premise is faulty
#2 The choices are idiotic without having an option for "never".

Enjoy!
 
There is a reason it is called "pro choice."
Anti abortion should be called "anti choice."
mandated abortions would also be "anti choice."

Alcohol is legal. Is there a mandatory beer anyone has to drink? Should pot ever be legalized, will we have to smoke it?

The OP is totally absurd.
 
North America had a sad history in the last century where the mentally ill and handicapped were often sterilized against their knowledge or will. I had thought, as a society, that we had advanced beyond that sad, despicable period, but maybe not.
 
An abortion should be recommended when it's discovered that the couple is over 18, the pregnancy was intentional, and the child would end up calling the parents Aunt Mommy and Uncle Daddy ..

.. And it should be mandatory in the highly likely event that either of the parents are in politics.

:roll:
 
:roll: Sure wish this thread would be moved to the abortion board.

The answer to the OP is, of course, never, unless rabid gay-haters convince a majority that a gay-gene has been discovered and all gay fetus must be mandatorily aborted to save the human gene pool from the genetically inferior gays and that the country faces utter destruction by God's wrath in some ubber religious-rightwing gay-hatred revival. But since the public is going the other way in relation to gay rights the answer to when mandatory abortions will exist is never.
 
North America had a sad history in the last century where the mentally ill and handicapped were often sterilized against their knowledge or will. I had thought, as a society, that we had advanced beyond that sad, despicable period, but maybe not.

Circumstantially in rare instances I would support a forced sterilization. There are sterilization methods that are reversible.

In my opinion, a convicted violent rapist should be forcibly sterilized.

There are instances of extreme mental incompetency I would support it.

I would support it for a man or woman who continued to bio-parent children they abandon.

I would support it in certain instances of child abusers.
 
Circumstantially in rare instances I would support a forced sterilization. There are sterilization methods that are reversible.

In my opinion, a convicted violent rapist should be forcibly sterilized.

There are instances of extreme mental incompetency I would support it.

I would support it for a man or woman who continued to bio-parent children they abandon.

I would support it in certain instances of child abusers.

I'm glad you're not judge and jury.
 
If people just avoided 'forced' 'everyone' and 'required' when they shape their abortion views and enter discussions, we'd all be better off.
 
Nothing American. If "Milwaukee's Best" really is Milwaukee's best, then I don't want to drink Milwaukee's Average.

Ah, the Beast. I have many memories of it. None of them are good.
 
I'm glad you aren't either. :roll:

I never claimed either the desire or the qualifications - you, however, feel quite capable of making decisions related to other people's bodies.

I do find it odd, however, that you so freely want to end certain people's ability to procreate yet you adamantly oppose other people who believe that a woman should not be allowed to abort for "lifestyle" reasons. It's funny that you selectively believe in the sanctity of a person's body and a person's right to choose.

As a result, you're not "pro-choice" so much as you're "pro-your-choice". I, on the other hand, am fully pro-choice because I believe in the right of people to make their own choices even if I disagree with those choices and think they are terrible.
 
:roll: Sure wish this thread would be moved to the abortion board.

The answer to the OP is, of course, never, unless rabid gay-haters convince a majority that a gay-gene has been discovered and all gay fetus must be mandatorily aborted to save the human gene pool from the genetically inferior gays and that the country faces utter destruction by God's wrath in some ubber religious-rightwing gay-hatred revival. But since the public is going the other way in relation to gay rights the answer to when mandatory abortions will exist is never.

here in the US, eugenics has been a leftist notion.. so i wouldn't worry too much about the right suddenly adopting it to eradicate "da gayz".

in any event, Hitler pretty much soured the world on mandated eugenics.... promotional eugenics is how we roll nowadays
hell, people on this forum push promotional eugenics every day...they are easy to spot.. .they are the ones promoting the virtues of abortion to anyone who will listen.
 
Now that the elitist have convinced the American public to accept abortion as a morally reasonable thing to do, the next step is to implement mandatory abortions to those who are unfit to be parents. This was envisioned by Plato as a way to improve the quality of the human species much in the same way that cattle are bred to improve the heard.

The question I have to ask is: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

vasuderatorrent

Below is a quote from Book V of Plato's Republic
Unsolicited Commentary: Plato’s Republic: Book Five

"The second wave regarded the communal rearing of children, closely linked to the breeding of the females by only the best men. Socrates was intent upon destroying any bond that might develop except the bonds of a person to their community. The greatest evil was that which caused factions (462b). To this end he erased the family from the lives of the guardians and auxiliaries. No marriages were to be allowed. The best warriors would be directed to mate periodically with the women and the children of those unions would be raised collectively. Not even the mother would know who her offspring were. Socrates goes so far as to insist that this is the most natural way for our best men and women to procreate and exist together. It is not unlike the fighting dogs or game cocks which Glaucon raises at his home 459a).

It is hard to imagine how this relates to the soul of a human except that, perhaps, we should look closely at the relationships to which we cling. In this light, the argument that the offspring of unwarranted intercourse should be aborted is not quite so hideous."

You, my friend, are awesome and I look forward to your further postings.
 
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