View Poll Results: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

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  • As soon as possible. There are many people that shouldn't be having kids.

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  • Within 50 years. We're not quite ready but we are almost there.

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  • 51-200 years. Some people are so stupid that they think aborition is wrong.

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  • 201-1000 years. This is the most advanced dream of abortionist. It takes lots of time.

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Thread: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

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    Re: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    There's a reason it's called pro-choice. It is the choice of the individuals, up to the point where the fetus is able to live outside the womb. So says the civil law.

    Being against abortion is anti-choice, and seeks to impose a will on others based on the anti-choice person's belief system. Ironically, once an unwanted child is born, the anti-choicer wants nothing to do with it....no food stamps, no health care, no assistance in recessions. The unwanted baby is on its own.

    I am pro-choice. Except maybe for you. I think you shouldn't have any children, so we don't get any more OPs like this one.
    do you have children?

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    Re: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Noone has convinced the public that is is the "morally reasonable" thing to do. It is simply the LEGAL thing to do.
    Actually, this is not exactly true. There is a very common pro abortion argument that outright says that abortion is the preferred option and usually it shows up in the form of arguing that unplanned children are "unwanted" and are sure to be abandoned/abused, and would therefore be better off if they had been aborted. There are other variations.

    As far as it being mandated, I have seen that argument before but that won't ever have popular support. I do admit though, when some of the same people who call the unborn baby all sorts of awful things claim they would argue as vehemently against mandatory abortion, I'm dubious.

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    Re: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

    Oh right, typical reflexive reaction from someone who "strongly" believes we should have a theocracy. If you actually thought of it, 'mandatory abortions' will never happen, because it's much more fullproof to just sterilize. That is nothing new. Now those would-be unfit parents won't exist and you won't get to cry about "dead babies," because they won't ever get pregnant!

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    Re: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm a meritocrat who believes in Platonic rule, and the concept of the philosopher-king was designed so that the enlightened class was designed to help people from self-destruction through benevolent choices unable to be seen by the general populace. He didn't have disdain for the common folk.
    Plato's authoritarianism compares oddly with your libertarian stances.
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    Re: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    If people just avoided 'forced' 'everyone' and 'required' when they shape their abortion views and enter discussions, we'd all be better off.
    It would be better off for the pro-death advocates. I'm not sure how the pro-life group would benefit from this strategy. Are you sure everybody would be better off or just your side?

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    Re: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Actually, this is not exactly true. There is a very common pro abortion argument that outright says that abortion is the preferred option and usually it shows up in the form of arguing that unplanned children are "unwanted" and are sure to be abandoned/abused, and would therefore be better off if they had been aborted. There are other variations.

    As far as it being mandated, I have seen that argument before but that won't ever have popular support. I do admit though, when some of the same people who call the unborn baby all sorts of awful things claim they would argue as vehemently against mandatory abortion, I'm dubious.
    Well, you do know that's incredibly fringe, don't you? I certainly hope you're not one of those people who think pro-choice is just a euphemism for "pro-abortion." I caught the qualifiers such as "there is a very common pro abortion argument" as well as "I have seen the argument," but I'm just making certain.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 10-24-13 at 03:50 AM.

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    Re: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

    I'm unaware of any situations where securing a right means requiring its exercise. Freedom of speech includes the freedom not to speak. Freedom of religion includes the freedom to have no religion. Freedom to contract includes the freedom not to contract. Freedom of association includes the freedom not to associate. The right to privacy includes the freedom to be public if you like. The right to marry includes the right not to marry. The right to remain silent includes the right not to remain silent. The right to abort includes the right not to abort.

    The OP is complete nonsense.
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    Re: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    North America had a sad history in the last century where the mentally ill and handicapped were often sterilized against their knowledge or will. I had thought, as a society, that we had advanced beyond that sad, despicable period, but maybe not.
    Look at his lean. This isn't his idiocy, it's the idiocy he attributes to his opponents because he doesn't understand their arguments.

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    Re: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Yes, we totally disagree, don't we? You believe rapists have a fundamental right to make as many girls and women pregnant as he can get away with. I do not think rapists have any procreation rights.

    You have no problem with two severely mentally handicapped adults making as many children as possible and dumping them into the system, no problem with serial child abusers having as many more children as possible, and otherwise dumping as many children parentless as anyone wants to. I don't.

    What other other "rights" to harm women and abandon children do you defend as "choices" a person has a right to make?
    And there's a comment so over the top or under a rock that there's no justification for a serious response. My apologies for pointing out your stunning hypocrisy and touching such a sensitive nerve.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Look at his lean. This isn't his idiocy, it's the idiocy he attributes to his opponents because he doesn't understand their arguments.
    It is idiocy, no matter where it comes from - no political ideology has a lock on sanity or even an abundance of sane people.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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