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When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

  • As soon as possible. There are many people that shouldn't be having kids.

    Votes: 7 63.6%

  • Within 50 years. We're not quite ready but we are almost there.

    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • 51-200 years. Some people are so stupid that they think aborition is wrong.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 201-1000 years. This is the most advanced dream of abortionist. It takes lots of time.

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Total voters
    11
  • Poll closed .
shrubnose said:
Maybe for you it's decided, others have a different point of view.
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As soon as possible. There are many people that shouldn't be having kids. 9 votes 52.94%

Within 50 years. We're not quite ready but we are almost there. 2 votes 11.76%

51-200 years. Some people are so stupid that they think aborition is wrong. 0 votes 0%

201-1000 years. This is the most advanced dream of abortionist. It takes lots of time. 6 votes 35.29%

This poll was never intended for the participation of pro-lifers.

This poll was for the pro-choice crowd which you don't seem to belong. This poll wasn't for you. However if you are pro-choice, the first option has already been selected by the majority of participants. This thread is as dead as an aborted fetus.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
9 out of 17 votes constitutes a majority. Are you ignoring facts to be obnoxious?
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Are you considering data from an unscientific poll on a political debate site to be useful fact?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Yes

Do you have a better suggestion?
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Some data from a scientific poll?

Not that it matters.

Lack of other options does not mean flawed data is accurate.
 
shrubnose said:
I have noticed that quite often the same people who want to get government off of Wall Street's back want the same government to stick its nose into every American bedroom for various reasons.




"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government jhas gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~ Ronald Reagan
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You noticed that too, huh? and they call themselves "conservatives" and go on about limited government.

RR said a lot of things that were right on, and that's one of them.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Now that the elitist have convinced the American public to accept abortion as a morally reasonable thing to do, the next step is to implement mandatory abortions to those who are unfit to be parents. This was envisioned by Plato as a way to improve the quality of the human species much in the same way that cattle are bred to improve the heard.

The question I have to ask is: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

vasuderatorrent

Below is a quote from Book V of Plato's Republic
Unsolicited Commentary: Plato’s Republic: Book Five

"The second wave regarded the communal rearing of children, closely linked to the breeding of the females by only the best men. Socrates was intent upon destroying any bond that might develop except the bonds of a person to their community. The greatest evil was that which caused factions (462b). To this end he erased the family from the lives of the guardians and auxiliaries. No marriages were to be allowed. The best warriors would be directed to mate periodically with the women and the children of those unions would be raised collectively. Not even the mother would know who her offspring were. Socrates goes so far as to insist that this is the most natural way for our best men and women to procreate and exist together. It is not unlike the fighting dogs or game cocks which Glaucon raises at his home 459a).

It is hard to imagine how this relates to the soul of a human except that, perhaps, we should look closely at the relationships to which we cling. In this light, the argument that the offspring of unwarranted intercourse should be aborted is not quite so hideous."
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Good question but then in the end you're talking stuff I'm not interested about at all. to answer your good question here: I say people should need a license to breed just like they need a license to drive, unless they want to go live in a lawless island where anything goes (see this is what pvsi.net means to the world on YouTube) 2 children limit per family unless you show above certain amount of steady income.
 
The argument from the pro-choice side that is winning people over is the notion that a woman has self-ownership of her body and everything inside it, thus she controls her body. Forcing her to have an abortion would violate that principle just as much as prohibiting her from having one would, so I don't see forced abortions happening as long as people are of that same mindset.
 
pvsi said:
Good question but then in the end you're talking stuff I'm not interested about at all. to answer your good question here: I say people should need a license to breed just like they need a license to drive, unless they want to go live in a lawless island where anything goes (see this is what pvsi.net means to the world on YouTube) 2 children limit per family unless you show above certain amount of steady income.
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I would accept population controls, but a license to breed? seems like we would be infringing on people right to chose what they do. Who's going to chose who gets these licences?
 
shrubnose said:
The Germans went way beyond euthanasia.
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No doubt. And it was less the couple of Hundred Thausands of "lebensunwertes Lebens" that got them into real trouble. In fact, a friend's father ran his hospital after the war until retirement, in which he had cleansed the population of such "lebensunwerte" people during the war. Of course, he did have to modify his business model.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Now that the elitist have convinced the American public to accept abortion as a morally reasonable thing to do, the next step is to implement mandatory abortions to those who are unfit to be parents. This was envisioned by Plato as a way to improve the quality of the human species much in the same way that cattle are bred to improve the heard.

The question I have to ask is: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

vasuderatorrent

Below is a quote from Book V of Plato's Republic
Unsolicited Commentary: Plato’s Republic: Book Five

"The second wave regarded the communal rearing of children, closely linked to the breeding of the females by only the best men. Socrates was intent upon destroying any bond that might develop except the bonds of a person to their community. The greatest evil was that which caused factions (462b). To this end he erased the family from the lives of the guardians and auxiliaries. No marriages were to be allowed. The best warriors would be directed to mate periodically with the women and the children of those unions would be raised collectively. Not even the mother would know who her offspring were. Socrates goes so far as to insist that this is the most natural way for our best men and women to procreate and exist together. It is not unlike the fighting dogs or game cocks which Glaucon raises at his home 459a).

It is hard to imagine how this relates to the soul of a human except that, perhaps, we should look closely at the relationships to which we cling. In this light, the argument that the offspring of unwarranted intercourse should be aborted is not quite so hideous."
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I think it would be better to try and find parents for the unborn or wait till the kids come and give that another try. If nobody wants them.... I mean it would only be a few weeks later. So why hurry?
 
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