View Poll Results: Do you favor/oppose an amendment making Christianity the official religion of the US

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Im not sure how true/real the poll at the bottom is but it made me curious what people really think?


    Would you favor or oppose a Constitutional amendment which would make Christianity the official religion of the United States?


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    http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com...0403042013.pdf
    With over 30,000 christian denoms in the world I wouldn't want to give the world superpower over to the wrong one...
    I believe half of the things I say and say half of the things I believe.

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    With over 30,000 christian denoms in the world I wouldn't want to give the world superpower over to the wrong one...
    Reminds me of the greatest religious joke of all time, by Emo Phillips:

    Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump.

    I said, "Don't do it!"
    He said, "Nobody loves me."
    I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"
    He said, "Yes."
    I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?"
    He said, "A Christian."
    I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?"
    He said, "Protestant."
    I said, "Me, too! What franchise?"
    He said, "Baptist."
    I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?"
    He said, "Northern Baptist."
    I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"
    He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist."
    I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?"
    He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region."
    I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?"
    He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912."

    I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.
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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech

    Anything that abridges those rights is anti-American. Morality laws abridge those rights, generally. I have the right to pursue happiness, and, so long as it doesn't harm you, you have no natural right to interfere with that. That means that I'm free to live my life my way, whether you like it or not, so long as it does you no harm. The problem with right-wingers is that they want to tell everyone else how to live. They don't understand that they have no just authority to do so. You don't have to like the way I live. You only have to like the way you live. If I like to smoke pot, have gay sex, drink alcohol, eat transfat, smoke cigarettes, and sleep with women outside of marriage, that's not any of your business. You live your life. I live my life. That's what freedom is. Rightwingers are opposed to that. They want to control other peoples lives -- generally because they can't control their own.
    while what you state is true, there are those on the left who also want to dictate how people live, eat drink and how to think.........it goes both ways.

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Would you favor or oppose a Constitutional amendment which would make Christianity the official religion of the United States?


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    Strongly oppose. This is not a theocracy and I would never support such. I believe in peoples freedoms. Including the right to worship the deity/religion of your choice.
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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Salus populi suprema lex est from common law. It's the viewpoint that society and government were created to further the welfare of the public.
    I don't see that, the way you put it forth.

    our founding principle's are in the DOI, and easy to understand.

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    while what you state is true, there are those on the left who also want to dictate how people live, eat drink and how to think.........it goes both ways.
    That's true. As far as I can tell, it's mostly fringe or minor. Things like the NY Mayor trying to ban large soda's. That's just one really, really stupid man, though, not a whole party. Well, as far as I ever notice, at least. There are a *lot* of radical fringe groups in what we call "the left" in the US, no doubt, but their influence is usually restricted to a half block radius in San Franciso, generally somewhere in the Mission District, or a student union at UCB.

    Then again, it could be that it doesn't stand out as much to me because it's stuff I find less offensive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Salus populi suprema lex est from common law. It's the viewpoint that society and government were created to further the welfare of the public.
    That isn't in any way binding law in the United States. The government here gets it authority from the Constitution. Which article, or amendment, places personal morality under the regulatory discretion of the Government? Where does the government get power to regulate our personal moral decisions?
    "All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell [the bible] teaches us how to run all our public policy and everything in society." Rep. Paul Broun (R)

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    That's true. As far as I can tell, it's mostly fringe or minor. Things like the NY Mayor trying to ban large soda's. That's just one really, really stupid man, though, not a whole party. Well, as far as I ever notice, at least. There are a *lot* of radical fringe groups in what we call "the left" in the US, no doubt, but their influence is usually restricted to a half block radius in San Franciso, generally somewhere in the Mission District, or a student union at UCB.

    Then again, it could be that it doesn't stand out as much to me because it's stuff I find less offensive.



    That isn't in any way binding law in the United States. The government here gets it authority from the Constitution. Which article, or amendment, places personal morality under the regulatory discretion of the Government? Where does the government get power to regulate our personal moral decisions?
    You know its use is based in the preamble and in the taxing and spending clause.
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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    That's true. As far as I can tell, it's mostly fringe or minor. Things like the NY Mayor trying to ban large soda's. That's just one really, really stupid man, though, not a whole party. Well, as far as I ever notice, at least. There are a *lot* of radical fringe groups in what we call "the left" in the US, no doubt, but their influence is usually restricted to a half block radius in San Franciso, generally somewhere in the Mission District, or a student union at UCB.

    Then again, it could be that it doesn't stand out as much to me because it's stuff I find less offensive.
    I bet you anything he could lodge a series of complaints about policies and programs you support that you do not find "control how I live or think" but he does.
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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I bet you anything he could lodge a series of complaints about policies and programs you support that you do not find "control how I live or think" but he does.
    And I bet I could explain how they're not based on morality, but on actual harm. For example, I think it's immoral to vote for Republicans. That doesn't mean I want to outlaw it. If I did want to outlaw it based on my personal moral view . . . then I'd be a Republican.
    "All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell [the bible] teaches us how to run all our public policy and everything in society." Rep. Paul Broun (R)

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    And I bet I could explain how they're not based on morality, but on actual harm. For example, I think it's immoral to vote for Republicans. That doesn't mean I want to outlaw it. If I did want to outlaw it based on my personal moral view . . . then I'd be a Republican.
    No, you would be rationalizing long-standing programs or statutes on the basis of pure harm, rather than the morally-charged atmosphere which created it or sustained it. Moralsm does not somehow negate explanations of harm, but is rather connected to their rationale.
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