View Poll Results: Do you favor/oppose an amendment making Christianity the official religion of the US

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    2 1.57%
  • Either or is agreeable

    1 0.79%
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Thread: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    I wasn't referring to this thread. I was referring to life in general. If you expect one thing and the opposite happens, this causes intense frustration. This applies to personal relationships more so than politics but it does still apply. It's better to align your expectations with reality as much as possible.

    It is an aggravating life when you believe, "She should do this. He should do that. They shouldn't do that. Once you realize that humans will behave inappropriately at times you can minimize your frustration. All 7 billion people on this earth are not going to study your list of shoulds and shouldn'ts. Even if they did, they may forget from time to time.


    The moral of the story. Sometimes people will do bad stuff. Sometimes people will do good stuff. Expect it.


    Yes, this includes politicians. Sometimes they do good stuff. Sometimes they do bad stuff.

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    You're doing some weird thing where any opposition to literally any idea can be dismissed with "what, sometimes people believe things you don't and do things you don't like. Get over it."

    It's a bastardized version of the idea that we should respect anyone's beliefs. To crib from Patton Oswalt, no you ****ing shouldn't. You acknowledge that other people are ****ty, and then you get in their face and say that's ****ty, and you're ****ty.

    Because that's the only way ****ty people become less ****ty. Sometimes it doesn't work, but sometimes it does.

    Other people will do stupid things for stupid reasons, but you know what? I'm going to tell them they're doing stupid things for stupid reasons. Deal with it.
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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You're doing some weird thing where any opposition to literally any idea can be dismissed with "what, sometimes people believe things you don't and do things you don't like. Get over it."

    It's a bastardized version of the idea that we should respect anyone's beliefs. To crib from Patton Oswalt, no you ****ing shouldn't. You acknowledge that other people are ****ty, and then you get in their face and say that's ****ty, and you're ****ty.

    Because that's the only way ****ty people become less ****ty. Sometimes it doesn't work, but sometimes it does.

    Other people will do stupid things for stupid reasons, but you know what? I'm going to tell them they're doing stupid things for stupid reasons. Deal with it.
    Sounds like a pretty good strategy. I think a better strategy would be to align your expectations with reality but this is fine. It sounds like it works well for you.

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) I dont but its what should be focused on and strived for at all costs and there are laws and rights to be followed.
    2.) false actually i do
    3.) not true either it has nothing to do with "Groups" I support more, it has to do with how rights work and my respect for that and people breaking the law. There were not rights infringed on of the business owners.
    See if the patrons we black or women, or Christians etc i would support the LAW in that case just like i do now. The law was broken and religion isn't an excuses for that in this case by any means.

    What would you have done in those cases? and would it be the same if the discrimination was against blacks, women or Christians? Do you want the law ignored/changed?

    Im a Christian and I have a freedom of the religion but my religious rights are confined by the religious realm and where others rights start.
    This is why i support and would fight for churches to always be allowed to discriminate which they always will be unless the constitution changes.


    But at no time would I support St Anthony hospital denying my friend visitation or medical decisions for his wife because he is jewish or got married by a singing Elvis or magistrate.
    At no time would i support Walmart kicking out by neighbors form the store simply because they were black
    at no time would i support my uncle kicking people out of his public access garage simply because they were Muslims

    and I myself would NEVER be dumb enough to open my own public business and break the law and illegally discriminate based on my own morals or bigoted views.
    The rules work for ME just like they do for EVERYONE, in the public realm i must play by public rules.
    I doubt you'd even notice as you'd just call anyone who brought it up a conspiracy nut.

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I doubt you'd even notice as you'd just call anyone who brought it up a conspiracy nut.
    LOL nice!

    oh but i would though!
    I would fight tooth and nail against it and be appalled at anybody even suggesting "churches" cant discriminate, luckily that battle doesnt exist or need me the constitution has my back.

    you didnt vote yet or answer my question above that hurts my feelings lol jk
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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    The f*ck kinda question is this??

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I really doubt anyone, no matter how religious, who has a good understanding of the Constitution, how our system of government works, and the dangers of mixing ONE religion with that government would day anything other than "absolutely not". I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish by this poll, J.
    Around a third of the country want this. And, ironically, it's that third that are most convinced that they have special knowledge and understanding of the Constitution, how our system of government works, and the dangers of NOT mixing one religion with that government.
    "All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell [the bible] teaches us how to run all our public policy and everything in society." Rep. Paul Broun (R)

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    After last night listening to a leader of some whiny assed group that now wants "so help me god" stiken form military oaths.
    I would support such an amendment even more.

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

    It would seem to me that the founding fathers specifically wanted to avoid making laws based solely in religion. Because pushing my religion onto somebody else with the force of law is a violation of their rights.

    You're right: Laws that are "oppressive" sometimes have a remedy that isn't based on an election: the US constitution, and our court system.

    So no: Congress can't do whatever they want for whatever reason they want.

    As for disappointment and frustration, I feel like you're projecting a bit. I've been perfectly calm in this thread.
    FYI: Supreme Court decisions are rarely 9-0. Yes, people usurp power frequently and try to impose their will upon you. Just because you like what the constitution says about one subject doesn't mean you wouldn't vote against the constitution when you disagree with what it says on a different subject. You would utilize your power to impose your will upon others. That is what humans do. You are no exception.

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    There should be no state... ideology, none.

    ...We shouldn't have any national state ideology...
    Democracy? Republicanism?

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    Re: Would you vote for Christianity to be the official religion of the United States?

    I voted "Strongly Oppose."

    I am stickler for correct terminology, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    But...theocracies work SO well all over the world......LOL
    Theocracy is rule by religious authorities; it is not synonymous with state religion. Iran is a theocracy and Taliban Afghanistan was a theocracy. Howerver, numerous advanced European Democracies, such as the UK, Denmark, Norway and Sweden have, or until recently have had state religions. My father was from Denmark and I believe I recall him saying that priests were state employees.

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